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265706 Thomas Conroy 2018‑04‑12 Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
O Galoots:
A friend of mine, aa bookbinder with twenty-five or thirty years experience,
sent me this:
https://www.skinner
inc.com/auctions/3093M/lots/415
saying that they looked like any creasers or polishers he had ever seen. Or, in
fact, like any bookbinding tools he had ever seen.  I'm right there with him: I
haven't the foggiest notion of what they are. There is just one thing I am sure
of: they are not for bookbinding.
Does anyone recognize any of these things? Or t least have a guess about them/
Tom ConroyBerkeley
265707 "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> 2018‑04‑12 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
Summat’s flummoxed wor Tom.   (something has puzzled our Thomas, Paddy) 


The bottom two suggest ring tools for turning, and the elegance of the handle
suggests Holtzapffel to me.  The knife above suggests green wood carving, but
the handle shouts ‘turning’ so I lean towards it being a turners tool, perhaps
used as a fine chisel/skew chisel, though I’m prepared to believe its just what
it appears to be, and a carving knife.
As for the top item, I too an flummoxed, I have, and use something vaguely
similar, which is used as a temporary rest on end turning.  Let’s suppose you
wish to dish the foot of a bowl, say, after separating the work from its
tailstock support stub, you place the mystery item at ninety degrees to the
toolrest, on the toolrest, thus forming a support for a scraper - or a dinky
ring tool to clean up the end.  no stopping involved, just a continuous
production movement.   The fluting on the end mandates against this theory
though.  (In other words I have no solid idea!)


Richard Wilson
Yorkshireman Galoot
265708 Brent Beach <brent.beach@g...> 2018‑04‑12 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
Egad

On 2018-04-11 22:21, Thomas Conroy via OldTools wrote:
> > https://www.ski
nnerinc.com/auctions/3093M/lots/415

You don't want to let SWMBO catch you looking through that auction 
starting at page 7 - some fabulous very old woodworking tools. Gets the 
collector genes demanding action.

Some of the prices seem a little high, others not so bad. Would be a 
great auction to view in person.

Brent
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Brent Beach
Victoria, BC, Canada
265709 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2018‑04‑12 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
On 2018-04-12 12:27 AM, yorkshireman@y... wrote:
> Summat’s flummoxed wor Tom.   (something has puzzled our Thomas, Paddy)
>
>
> The bottom two suggest ring tools for turning, and the elegance of the handle
suggests Holtzapffel to me.  The knife above suggests green wood carving, but
the handle shouts ‘turning’ so I lean towards it being a turners tool, perhaps
used as a fine chisel/skew chisel, though I’m prepared to believe its just what
it appears to be, and a carving knife.
> As for the top item, I too an flummoxed, I have, and use something vaguely
similar, which is used as a temporary rest on end turning.  Let’s suppose you
wish to dish the foot of a bowl, say, after separating the work from its
tailstock support stub, you place the mystery item at ninety degrees to the
toolrest, on the toolrest, thus forming a support for a scraper - or a dinky
ring tool to clean up the end.  no stopping involved, just a continuous
production movement.   The fluting on the end mandates against this theory
though.  (In other words I have no solid idea!)
>
>
> Richard Wilson
> Yorkshireman Galoot

Agree the ring tools are likely for turning. The knife looks like - well 
- a knife. But the top item: might it be a parting tool, an elbowed 
parting tool?

fwiw

Don

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I’ve moved on.

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265711 Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> 2018‑04‑12 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
GGs

Except for the groove being on the short end, it looks a bit like a
tuckpointers jointer. Tuckpointing in the UK, not US tradition.

It may be a jointer for getting into tricky spots.

Mick Dowling
Melbourne
Member, Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia Inc.


> Richard Wilson
> Yorkshireman Galoot

Agree the ring tools are likely for
> turning. The knife looks like - well 
- a knife. But the top item: might it be
> a parting tool, an elbowed 
parting tool?
265712 Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> 2018‑04‑12 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
GGs

Selection of jointers shown in this article;
http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoftrade.htm<
/a>

Mick Dowling
Melbourne
Member, Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia Inc.
265714 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2018‑04‑14 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
I have no idea what the dogleg tool is supposed to be
But thick as it is, and that shape?
I would evenly taper that "blade" down the length, from both sides, and 
make a mini froe out of it!

Looks like it would be dynamite for splitting small pegs and stuff
Bench froe!
  I want one now........heheheheheeh
    yours scott

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265715 "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> 2018‑04‑14 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
Mick nailed it…  

here’s the reference
http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoftrade.htm<
/a> <http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoftrade
.htm>

and you’ll find a fascinating treatise on the use of them, illustrations of
other versions, and why shoudl use one.

Yet another (tm) instance of an object being worthless in one auction, targeted
to bookbinders, and valuable in another - targeted to building conservation.
There is a huge upswing in the idea that lime mortar is a Good Thing - better
for the environment, less energy intensive to produce, kinder to the building,
and so forth.

Richard Wilson
Yorkshireman - with a south facing stone wall needing pointing because the
clowns who built it used cement, and the cracks around each stone now allow the
weather in.
265720 james rich <jameslrich3@g...> 2018‑04‑16 Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding.
Looks like it would be dynamite for splitting small Pigs!
 Actually pretty sure its a leather creaser or edger.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:14 PM, scott grandstaff 
wrote:

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