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265706 | Thomas Conroy | 2018‑04‑12 | Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
O Galoots: A friend of mine, aa bookbinder with twenty-five or thirty years experience, sent me this: https://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/3093M/lots/415 saying that they looked like any creasers or polishers he had ever seen. Or, in fact, like any bookbinding tools he had ever seen. I'm right there with him: I haven't the foggiest notion of what they are. There is just one thing I am sure of: they are not for bookbinding. Does anyone recognize any of these things? Or t least have a guess about them/ Tom ConroyBerkeley |
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265707 | "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> | 2018‑04‑12 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
Summat’s flummoxed wor Tom. (something has puzzled our Thomas, Paddy) The bottom two suggest ring tools for turning, and the elegance of the handle suggests Holtzapffel to me. The knife above suggests green wood carving, but the handle shouts ‘turning’ so I lean towards it being a turners tool, perhaps used as a fine chisel/skew chisel, though I’m prepared to believe its just what it appears to be, and a carving knife. As for the top item, I too an flummoxed, I have, and use something vaguely similar, which is used as a temporary rest on end turning. Let’s suppose you wish to dish the foot of a bowl, say, after separating the work from its tailstock support stub, you place the mystery item at ninety degrees to the toolrest, on the toolrest, thus forming a support for a scraper - or a dinky ring tool to clean up the end. no stopping involved, just a continuous production movement. The fluting on the end mandates against this theory though. (In other words I have no solid idea!) Richard Wilson Yorkshireman Galoot |
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265708 | Brent Beach <brent.beach@g...> | 2018‑04‑12 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
Egad On 2018-04-11 22:21, Thomas Conroy via OldTools wrote: > https://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/3093M/lots/415 You don't want to let SWMBO catch you looking through that auction starting at page 7 - some fabulous very old woodworking tools. Gets the collector genes demanding action. Some of the prices seem a little high, others not so bad. Would be a great auction to view in person. Brent -- Brent Beach Victoria, BC, Canada |
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265709 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2018‑04‑12 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
On 2018-04-12 12:27 AM, yorkshireman@y... wrote: > Summat’s flummoxed wor Tom. (something has puzzled our Thomas, Paddy) > > > The bottom two suggest ring tools for turning, and the elegance of the handle suggests Holtzapffel to me. The knife above suggests green wood carving, but the handle shouts ‘turning’ so I lean towards it being a turners tool, perhaps used as a fine chisel/skew chisel, though I’m prepared to believe its just what it appears to be, and a carving knife. > As for the top item, I too an flummoxed, I have, and use something vaguely similar, which is used as a temporary rest on end turning. Let’s suppose you wish to dish the foot of a bowl, say, after separating the work from its tailstock support stub, you place the mystery item at ninety degrees to the toolrest, on the toolrest, thus forming a support for a scraper - or a dinky ring tool to clean up the end. no stopping involved, just a continuous production movement. The fluting on the end mandates against this theory though. (In other words I have no solid idea!) > > > Richard Wilson > Yorkshireman Galoot Agree the ring tools are likely for turning. The knife looks like - well - a knife. But the top item: might it be a parting tool, an elbowed parting tool? fwiw Don -- I have decided to leave my past behind. So, if I owe you money...I am sorry, but I’ve moved on. The harder they come, the bigger they fall." Ry Cooder |
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265711 | Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> | 2018‑04‑12 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
GGs Except for the groove being on the short end, it looks a bit like a tuckpointers jointer. Tuckpointing in the UK, not US tradition. It may be a jointer for getting into tricky spots. Mick Dowling Melbourne Member, Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia Inc. > Richard Wilson > Yorkshireman Galoot Agree the ring tools are likely for > turning. The knife looks like - well - a knife. But the top item: might it be > a parting tool, an elbowed parting tool? |
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265712 | Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> | 2018‑04‑12 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
GGs Selection of jointers shown in this article; http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoftrade.htm Mick Dowling Melbourne Member, Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia Inc. |
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265714 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2018‑04‑14 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
I have no idea what the dogleg tool is supposed to be But thick as it is, and that shape? I would evenly taper that "blade" down the length, from both sides, and make a mini froe out of it! Looks like it would be dynamite for splitting small pegs and stuff Bench froe! I want one now........heheheheheeh yours scott -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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265715 | "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> | 2018‑04‑14 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
Mick nailed it… here’s the reference http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoftrade. htm">http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoftrade.htm< /a> <http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoft rade.htm">http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/toolsoftrade/toolsoftrade .htm> and you’ll find a fascinating treatise on the use of them, illustrations of other versions, and why shoudl use one. Yet another (tm) instance of an object being worthless in one auction, targeted to bookbinders, and valuable in another - targeted to building conservation. There is a huge upswing in the idea that lime mortar is a Good Thing - better for the environment, less energy intensive to produce, kinder to the building, and so forth. Richard Wilson Yorkshireman - with a south facing stone wall needing pointing because the clowns who built it used cement, and the cracks around each stone now allow the weather in. |
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265720 | james rich <jameslrich3@g...> | 2018‑04‑16 | Re: Four Whatsis, not bookbinding. |
Looks like it would be dynamite for splitting small Pigs! Actually pretty sure its a leather creaser or edger. On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:14 PM, scott grandstaff |
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