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269419 | "Dennis Heyza" <michigaloot@c...> | 2019‑11‑18 | Popular Woodworking? |
Gentles, Curious if anyone knows the latest on PW. Due to the declining quality of content and advertising of male sexual performance products, I purposely let my subscription lapse earlier this year. All was quiet on that front until a few weeks ago when I started getting daily emails from them containing advertisements for both woodworking and non-woodworking related products, and links to online articles, the latest of which was for CNC-based woodworking ("I can't tell .001" on a micrometer, but I can set my CNC to exact dimensioning," [sigh]. And based on a cursory glance at the web site and magazine stands, I can't see they've produced an issue since June. Yes, I can click 'Unsubscribe' and intend to, but just wonderin'. Dennis Heyza |
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269420 | Bill Ghio | 2019‑11‑18 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Dennis Heyza |
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269421 | "John M Johnston (jmjhnstn)" <jmjhnstn@m...> | 2019‑11‑18 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
Galoots Assembled, It seems that over the past couple of years I have let my subscriptions lapse for both PW and FW. I found I just wasn't reading them, in some cases nothing more that flipping through the pages. While interesting in some instances, the content was neither engaging or relevant to the work I do. Cheers, John |
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269422 | Gary Roberts | 2019‑11‑18 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
PWW. The continuous ownership and management changes have taken their toll. Woodsmith aka Active Interest Media now owns the mag. I expect the mag to be wholly absorbed by Woodsmith and to disappear altogether. Full disclosure: I used to contract with the original PWW to sell books via there website. After F&W stepped in with new management, I ended up canceling that contract due to ongoing problems. It’s a pity but, there is always Mortise & Tenon! Gary |
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269423 | Kirk Eppler | 2019‑11‑18 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:54 AM Dennis Heyza |
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269424 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2019‑11‑18 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
I had the electronic subscription for a few years, trying to save trees for more appropriate uses but found the content hasn't really spoken to me in a long while. When Megan Fitzpatrick left as the editor (and 'mutual-agreement-to-part-ways" statement that reeked a threatened severance and an NDA) I cancelled that scrip too. The hand tool and Old skills content that Chris Schwartz brought to the magazine are not the focus any longer. The Lost Art Press Blog and many other electronic resources seem to fill the need the print magazines once satisfied. I let FWW go when it became more pictures than text and the captions on the pictures just paraphrased the text. Old issues of FWW are still a pleasure to read, with dense text, explanatory captioning and deep dives into craft, and I grab those old issues whenever they show up at sales. Michael On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:54 AM Dennis Heyza |
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269425 | Ken Wright <wizard@b...> | 2019‑11‑18 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
And here I thought I was the only one mourning the loss of what PWW used to be! I still have my subscription, and I received the November 2019 issue a few weeks ago, so they haven't completely gone toes-up. Ken On 11/18/19 8:44 AM, Dennis Heyza wrote: > Gentles, > > > > Curious if anyone knows the latest on PW. Due to the declining quality of > content and advertising of male sexual performance products, I purposely let > my subscription lapse earlier this year. All was quiet on that front until a > few weeks ago when I started getting daily emails from them containing > advertisements for both woodworking and non-woodworking related products, > and links to online articles, the latest of which was for CNC-based > woodworking ("I can't tell .001" on a micrometer, but I can set my CNC to > exact dimensioning," [sigh]. And based on a cursory glance at the web site > and magazine stands, I can't see they've produced an issue since June. > > > > Yes, I can click 'Unsubscribe' and intend to, but just wonderin'. > > > > Dennis Heyza > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > https://oldtools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > https://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > > OldTools archive: https://swingleydev.com/ot/ > > OldTools@s... -- Registered Linux user #483005 If you ever think international relations make sense, remember this: because a Serb shot an Austrian in Bosnia, Germany invaded Belgium. |
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269426 | "Steve Jones" <stjones@k...> | 2019‑11‑18 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
GGs; Just got the December issue - as expected, mostly power tools (and a little CNC) with some cleanup and details with hand tools. Most of the ads have something to do with woodworking. I wouldn't subscribe now, but I'll let mine run out. Every once in a while there's something useful or interesting. On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Ken Wright wrote: > And here I thought I was the only one mourning the loss of what PWW used > to be! > > I still have my subscription, and I received the November 2019 issue a > few weeks ago, so they haven't completely gone toes-up. > > Ken > > On 11/18/19 8:44 AM, Dennis Heyza wrote: > > Gentles, > > > > > > > > Curious if anyone knows the latest on PW. Due to the declining quality of > > content and advertising of male sexual performance products, I purposely let > > my subscription lapse earlier this year. All was quiet on that front until a > > few weeks ago when I started getting daily emails from them containing > > advertisements for both woodworking and non-woodworking related products, > > and links to online articles, the latest of which was for CNC-based > > woodworking ("I can't tell .001" on a micrometer, but I can set my CNC to > > exact dimensioning," [sigh]. And based on a cursory glance at the web site > > and magazine stands, I can't see they've produced an issue since June. > > > > > > > > Yes, I can click 'Unsubscribe' and intend to, but just wonderin'. > > > > > > > > Dennis Heyza > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > > > To change your subscription options: > > https://oldtools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > > > To read the FAQ: > > https://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > > > > OldTools archive: https://swingleydev.com/ot/ > > > > OldTools@s... > > -- > Registered Linux user #483005 > > If you ever think international relations make sense, remember this: > because a Serb shot an Austrian in Bosnia, Germany invaded Belgium. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > https://oldtools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > https://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > > OldTools archive: https://swingleydev.com/ot/ > > OldTools@s... > "Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire." --Gustave Mahler Steve Jones "Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire." --Gustave Mahler |
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269440 | Dan Beck <drumsandbacon@g...> | 2019‑11‑22 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
I've had some issues with them. About a year ago I signed up for the Popular Woodworking Online Video Subscription - at $19.99 a month. It was pretty steep, but they have every episode of The Woodwright's Shop, so that alone was worth the price of admission for me. Several months ago, I decided to cancel my subscription and sent them an email to do so. I received a response saying my subscription was canceled. The following month, I get dinged $19.99 again. I send them an email and the email gets bounced. Turns out PW's parent company F+W Media has filed bankruptcy. I get ahold of the new company that bought the PW digital video assets (AIM Media) and ask them to cancel my subscription. I get an email back saying I'm all set. Next month rolls around and I get charged again! This happens over the course of four months, so now I'm out $80 and no one seems to know who is charging me and why. Finally, just this past week, I discover that a different company (Golden Peak Media) who bought some of F+W's other assets (like Beadwork, McCalls Quilting, Knitscene) was, for some reason, billing me monthly for the PW video subscription they didn't even own! They claimed to have canceled future charges and they did actually refund me for the last four months. But I wonder how many other PW subscribers have been incorrectly charged by wayward companies who bought up some small portion of F+W Media's empire. As for the magazine itself, someone gave me a gift subscription last year, and I agree - not really all that compelling. I find the content pretty uninteresting after Chris Schwarz and Megan Fitzpatrick left. -Dan |
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269442 | curt seeliger <seeligerc@g...> | 2019‑11‑22 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
Dan tells about some crummy billing problems, and then sez: > As for the magazine itself, someone gave me a gift subscription last year, > and I agree - not really all that compelling. I find the content pretty > uninteresting after Chris Schwarz and Megan Fitzpatrick left. The rockstars are gone, yes. Yoav Liberman has been pretty interesting, writing about teaching wood shop and 'bottom feeder' activities like restoring tools found at the curb and using discarded furniture and other sources of free wood. While I'm not interested in doing any wood machining, it's sometimes interesting to see what the CNC makes possible. cur - who has no idea how anyone can turn that into profit, so the magazine is in better hands than mine. |
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269443 | don schwartz <dks@t...> | 2019‑11‑22 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
Except if it was made for a left-handed worker, maybe. Don |
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269481 | curt seeliger <seeligerc@g...> | 2019‑12‑04 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
On another somewhat contrary note, PW is also including art-focused articles, like Woodwork did while they published. Art isn't my thing any more than CNC, but I find it at least as interesting. I hope they are able to pursue that direction. They are currently running a series on (mostly young) wood-based artists, the latest being this -- https://www.popularwoodworking.com/interviews/making-a-seat-at-the- table-teresa-audet/">https://www.popularwoodworking.com/interviews/making-a -seat-at-the-table-teresa-audet/ cur - I miss Woodwork, and am glad to have my issues to meander through. (and boy, do I have some issues, but that's another story) Dan tells about some crummy billing problems, and then sez: |
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269825 | "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> | 2020‑01‑29 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
I know this is two months after the original post, but I am catching up. I let my PW subscription lapse when I realized the mags were piling up. It wasn't so much that it was bad, as just not that interesting. Publications are all about the teams that create them; sometimes a change-over reinvigorates, and sometimes the opposite. In this case apparently the opposite. TO be honest, although I did like the pub back in the Megan and Swartz days, I originally subscribed to Woodworking. When they merged it back into the parent, I stayed on. Once, the FWW web forum was a magical place, with some superb craftspeople and a lot of serious-about-it-but-not-so-superb guys like me learning from them. However, they cut out all their paid experts, and did not exercise even a modicum of care wit the site -- no moderators, so flame warriors and boring know-nothings spoiled everything. I haven't even clicked on their sites in many years now. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi J |
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269829 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2020‑01‑29 | Re: Popular Woodworking? |
Joe Last week I went to the Woodworking in the Eighteenth Century annual session in Williamsburg. They handed out a free copy of the latest FWW to each of us. I stopped my subscription about 10 years ago now because of repitition. This issue had a 5 page article on making your own wooden spokeshave, something that the 3 makers of blades that I know of take anly 2 or 3 pages to tell, and that have been out there for up to 20 years now when you buy a blade. Always one or two little things you learn, but hard to remember all that stuff at the time you need it. How many times have you been doing something in the shop, developed a method to do it, did it, then remembered that specialized tool that you bought just for that job - DOH! Ed |
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