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264500 Dave Leader <daveldr@c...> 2017‑12‑31 Slightly OT - except for who we are
Galoots All,

The Internet isn't really old enough to be an Old Tool, although many of 
us old tools remember when DARPA hadn't come up with it yet. Many of the 
early Porch sitters had some, or a lot, to do with what the Net is 
today. This article struck a chord. I remember putting copyleft notices 
on my stuff for decades so that it could be shared for free. Many of you 
did too. Our newer members probably don't remember the same internet 
that we pensioners do. That's a loss. I just felt a cold wind upon the 
back of my neck and thought I'd share that this pre-New Year's Eve-Morn.

https://www.techsupportalert.com/content/2018-year-internet-finally-died.
htm

Dave in Fairfax
-- 
Law abiding American citizens own over 500 million guns and 16 trillion 
rounds of ammo.
If we were a problem, you would know about it.
264509 Glen Canaday <gcanaday@g...> 2017‑12‑31 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
There are still some of us who remember.

Here I put this up because I wanted to. Feel free to whatever. I promise
I'll post absolute BS every once in a while. If wordpress tracks I can't do
anything about it, but I personally don't.

www.mfiacollector.wordpress.com

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Galoots All,

The Internet isn't really old enough to be an Old Tool, although many of
us old tools remember when DARPA hadn't come up with it yet. Many of the
early Porch sitters had some, or a lot, to do with what the Net is
today. This article struck a chord. I remember putting copyleft notices
on my stuff for decades so that it could be shared for free. Many of you
did too. Our newer members probably don't remember the same internet
that we pensioners do. That's a loss. I just felt a cold wind upon the
back of my neck and thought I'd share that this pre-New Year's Eve-Morn.

https://www.techsupportalert.com/content/2018-year-internet-finally-died.
htm

Dave in Fairfax
--
Law abiding American citizens own over 500 million guns and 16 trillion
rounds of ammo.
If we were a problem, you would know about it.
264510 Glen Canaday <gcanaday@g...> 2017‑12‑31 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
I forgot the 'the'.

themfiacollector.wordpress.com

Haha woops.

Glen in the North (where it was -13F this morning and at 4pm is still at
-6.)
264532 James DUPRIE <j.duprie@c...> 2018‑01‑01 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
I can recall sitting in a meeting and having people discussing if there was ever
going to be any real use for this thing called "html" and "the web".....

=james
264533 Mark Pfeifer <markpfeifer@i...> 2018‑01‑01 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
I’m mid vintage online.

 I worked in books back then. 

I remember publishers wringing their hands about the death of books, the end of
creativity, and the destruction of the free exchange of ideas.

Then Amazon made money....selling books, and the publishers kowtow to Amazon. 

I remember when Google was trying to outdo Jeeves. 

The comfort I take in this is that when our every fact is known, and people can
be fed new ones so very easily, war as the 20th century knew it is probably out
of date. Cold comfort, but comfort anyway.



Sent from my iPhone
264536 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2018‑01‑01 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
I remember putting copyleft notices on my stuff for decades so that it 
could be shared for free. Many of you did too. Our newer members 
probably don't remember the same internet

Kitty came up with the.........
Free for personal use, for business contact me
  angle
  Her animations, that were actually able to be viewed and shared over 
the web, were
doing more traffic than Disney
(well Disney couldn't figure out how to get the files small enough to be 
portable at all then)

    Its still posted.
   second link in my sigline below.

      remember siglines?
      yours Scott

*******************************
    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.n
et/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcr
est.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
264538 <gtgrouch@r...> 2018‑01‑01 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
I remember Kitty's animations.

My problem is that I keep looking for the 'like' button on email from the Porch!

Gary Katsanis
Albion New York, USA
(where I am very glad to have central heat again - the ambient temp was about
5°F when it failed)

---- scott grandstaff  wrote: 

=============
I remember putting copyleft notices on my stuff for decades so that it 
could be shared for free. Many of you did too. Our newer members 
probably don't remember the same internet

Kitty came up with the.........
Free for personal use, for business contact me
  angle
  Her animations, that were actually able to be viewed and shared over 
the web, were
doing more traffic than Disney
(well Disney couldn't figure out how to get the files small enough to be 
portable at all then)

    Its still posted.
   second link in my sigline below.

      remember siglines?
      yours Scott

*******************************
    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.n
et/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcr
est.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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264617 David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> 2018‑01‑05 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
With the safe links keeping me from opening any links attached to an email my
Old Tools time is much less enjoyable.
I feel like I'm a two year old wrapped up in a Snowsuit, gloves, idiot mittens,
hat, scarf, hood, sun block, ski googles, and a blanket and told to go have fun
in the snow.
Just because Mom's cold, or someone panics, is no reason to go nuts. I don't
need a babysitter.


On Jan 1, 2018 1:12 PM, scott grandstaff  wrote:

I remember putting copyleft notices on my stuff for decades so that it
could be shared for free. Many of you did too. Our newer members
probably don't remember the same internet
264628 Tim <tpendleton@g...> 2018‑01‑05 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
No Woobie?

Running & ducking...

Tim
Enjoying the 15F heat wave in NJ.

On Jan 5, 2018 6:50 AM, "David Nighswander" 
wrote:

With the safe links keeping me from opening any links attached to an email
my Old Tools time is much less enjoyable.
I feel like I'm a two year old wrapped up in a Snowsuit, gloves, idiot
mittens, hat, scarf, hood, sun block, ski googles, and a blanket and told
to go have fun in the snow.
Just because Mom's cold, or someone panics, is no reason to go nuts. I
don't need a babysitter.


On Jan 1, 2018 1:12 PM, scott grandstaff  wrote:

I remember putting copyleft notices on my stuff for decades so that it
could be shared for free. Many of you did too. Our newer members
probably don't remember the same internet

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264629 Scott Garrison <sbg2008@c...> 2018‑01‑05 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
We had 11 degrees at my house in metro Atlanta this am. Brought back good
memories of my days in NH ;-)
264630 Tim <tpendleton@g...> 2018‑01‑05 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
That is a tad chilly for your corner of the Porch.

We will dip below zero F tonight. That is just cold enough for me to burn
my New Year's Resolutions for warmth.  :)

Tim
264675 Nathan Goodwin <hiscarpentry@g...> 2018‑01‑08 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
-5 in Weymouth Sunday morning. Come on back, we'll grab a pint and talk
about global warming. ;)

Nathan Goodwin

On Friday, January 5, 2018, Scott Garrison  wrote:

> We had 11 degrees at my house in metro Atlanta this am. Brought back good
> memories of my days in NH ;-)
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Tim  wrote:
>
> > No Woobie?
> >
> > Running & ducking...
> >
> > Tim
> > Enjoying the 15F heat wave in NJ.
> >
> >
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264682 Thomas Conroy 2018‑01‑09 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
Nathan Goodwin wrote: "-5 in Weymouth Sunday morning. Come on back, we'll grab a
pint and talk
about global warming. ;)"


Its warmed up here a bit from last week. 65 F. in the house at 1 AM with the
furnace off and a penetrating drizzle. The weather service says its 57 F.
outside, but I took out a thermometer and it didn't get that low; of course, I
did flee rapidly inside from the cold. Last week it was in the middle fifties in
daytime. Hard times.
Just sayin'.

Tom Conroy
ducking and running.
264716 "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> 2018‑01‑12 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
You know, friends, the net/web is a neutral tool, like a hammer that can drive
nails for shelter or bash heads.  Our list is one of the diminishing examples of
an entirely solid and wholesome use.  It is irrelevant that the format is out of
date.  The combined knowledge of the participants makes for a very high
likelihood of finding actual facts and information here.  By contrast, the
newer, spiffier, easier formats fill up with misinformation both due to
ignorance and due to mischief or even malice.  I have no idea the percentage,
but I find most widely disseminated information on the web to be faulty in one
way or another.  These days, I take none of it at face value -- just use it as
another data point in an effort to learn.

So, with our obsolete email forum, we really have the best of it, and in the
words of the old Scotts toast, "here's to us, who's like us!"

J

Joseph Sullivan
264730 David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> 2018‑01‑13 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
Still learning after all these years. I have found that I can ask a question
here and get an answer, not an expletive laden rant by an agenda driven
"expert".  There might be dicussion, but not accrimony.

This is home. I have to visit the crazy town for work but I don't live there.




" I have no idea the percentage, but I find most widely disseminated information
on the web to be faulty in one way or another.  These days, I take none of it at
face value -- just use it as another data point in an effort to learn.

So, with our obsolete email forum, we really have the best of it, and in the
words of the old Scotts toast, "here's to us, who's like us!"


Joseph Sullivan "
264736 Thomas Conroy 2018‑01‑14 Re: Slightly OT - except for who we are
Joe Sullivan wrote: 'So, with our obsolete email forum, we really have the best
of it, and in the words of the old Scotts toast, "here's to us, who's like us!"'

To complete the ritual: "Damn few---and they're a' deid."

Tom Conroy

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