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261661 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2017‑02‑14 | A simple pine box |
So the kid wanted a piece of furniture for her room, to hold the record player in a very specific place, of a particular size and to hold albums and art supplies https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../31973001563/ So she took a tape measure to the space , made a measured drawing and handed it off to her dad, who with a stack of wide pine boards from the last closet remodel, got to work. A half formed plan in my head was for rabbetted corner joints, and a rabbet for a plywood back. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../32087730993/ Wide boards, but not 13 inches wide. Edge joined and glued up in early November https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../32119748762/ Set up the shooting board, put an edge on the 6C (groove soled plane for subduing medium sized dogs), ran one edge of each board nice and square. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../32119830782/ Really understand the need for an offset handle on a shooting board plane, you can see the bloody knuckle in the vid, from the sharp edge of the melamine track the plane slides on. Edges square, joinery test done, used the neaderbuddy (b@n...@w) to cut off the excess and squared up the other ends of the boards by late November and thought of making this a Christmas present. On to the corner joints. Sargent 79 rabbet plane was one of my first joint making planes, pulled it from the toolchest, found the fence, sharpened up the nicker, (after dropping it twice) and blasted thru the end grain over the Thanksgiving weekend. To avoid blowing out the end grain, I screwed a sacrifical stick to the workbench that the boards butted up against, and kept shifting it forward for each new rabbett, leaving an odd series of screwholes in the bench, need to fill those. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../31458787503/ My rabbetting technique was a little iffy, not as square and straight as hoped, but another 79 plane, this time a Stanley side rabbet plane, made fun, quick work of getting rabbets deep enough. Touch up with a 90 cabinetmakers rabbet plane brought everything square. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../31458686523/ By December 24th I was cutting the rabbetts for the plywood back in the long grain of the boards. So much for a Christmas present. Also, un-noticed duriing the glue up to make the boards wide enough were a couple of knots right where I needed the rabbet. This was fun (please note sarcasm!) Scored the joint with the nicker on the plane, then again with a knife, and touching up the iron on the Sargent, wetting down the knots with water and alcohol and managed to cut the rabbets with less drama than expected. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../32352607416/ Glue up went quickly, some finish nails reinforced the joints, then planed the sides and the endgrain to bring everything into line. More nails and glue secured the plywood back and then paint. Pebble White to match the molding in the kids room, leaving the bottom (on the carpet) and the interior bare wood. Can't have those albums sticking. Finished shot again. Fun to do, simple, straightforward, exactly what the kid wanted in terms of size and function. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../31973001563/ At several points along the way, the thought of a tailed demon, spinning along at ear splitting speeds and putting a shower of static charged dust on every surface and I'd have been long done by now. Where's the fun in that? Michael |
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261663 | Thomas Conroy | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
My God, it really is a record player! There's your old tool content right there. I thought they were extinct. Tom Conroy Berkeley Michael Suwczinsky wrote: "So the kid wanted a piece of furniture for her room, to hold the record player in a very specific place, of a particular size and to hold albums and art supplies https://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../31973001563/" |
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261664 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
On 2017-02-14 5:11 PM, Thomas Conroy via OldTools wrote: > My God, it really is a record player! There's your old tool content right there. I thought they were extinct. > Tom Conroy Turntables & vinyl are a thing these days. All the 'cool kids' and hipsters have them. My millenial daughter won't let me sell the vinyl because she considers it's part of her inheritance... Don -- Let's all get normal at the luau - 'Frizz' Fuller |
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261665 | paul womack <pwomack@p...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
Don Schwartz wrote: > On 2017-02-14 5:11 PM, Thomas Conroy via OldTools wrote: >> My God, it really is a record player! There's your old tool content right there. I thought they were extinct. >> Tom Conroy > Turntables & vinyl are a thing these days. All the 'cool kids' and hipsters have them. My millenial daughter won't let me sell the vinyl because she considers it's part of her inheritance... Oh yeah, they're a thing. But it's complicated. Does anyone over the age of 35 understand this?: >> "I have vinyls in my room but it's more for decor. I don't actually play them," Jordan Katende, a student in Manchester, told BBC News. >> "It gives me the old-school vibe. That's what vinyl's all about," he added. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36027867 BugBear (owner and user of a Roksan Xerces) |
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261666 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
On Feb 14, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Thomas Conroy via OldTools |
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261667 | John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
Michael, In addition to have handcrafted a piece perfectly suited to the space and the context, you can also be proud of the part about your daughter having made a measured drawing. Not everyone is able to do that. Your daughter had the "vision" of what she needed. That's a vital factor that must be in place for anything truly creative to come into being. John Ruth |
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261668 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
John Not to be ornery or anything, but some of my best pieces had no drawing - they just floated around in my head for a while Ed Minch |
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261669 | Claudio DeLorenzi <claudio@d...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
New age CAD- Cartoon Assisted Dimensions Works great! Cheers Claudio |
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261670 | John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
Ed, Vision does not have to be on paper! "Just floating around in one's head for a while" is still vision. To complete a project, five things are required. 1) Time 2) Tools 3) Skills 4) Materials 5) A vision in your head, _and in your heart_ of what you are trying to create. Recording and refining this on paper can be a useful step, but it's not absolutely necessary. Some of the five can be purchased, but just having money is not the same as having what you need; some materials and skilled labor are difficult to buy. Sometimes the availability of certain materials drives vision. We've all experienced being inspired by an awesome hunk of wood. You, Ed, are very, very clearly capable of a level vision that I, for one, lack! That metal-front guitar proves it! Design talent is hard to define, but the results are readily recognizable. For example, your guitars! Not everyone has it. John Ruth |
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261671 | "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
Well, I have a fair amount of vinyl, and some pre-vinyl made from shellac. If I crank it up high enough, it gives me all the "vibe" I need and loosens up the plaster to boot. J Joseph Sullivan |
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261672 | Dragon List <dragon01list@g...> | 2017‑02‑15 | Re: A simple pine box |
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:32 AM, paul womack |
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261674 | Derek Cohen <derekcohen@i...> | 2017‑02‑16 | Re: A simple pine box |
Michael provides us with the information that vinyl lives in his home, and the methods of building a box for albums … Michael, vinyl lives on in my home as well! I have a dedicated vinyl set up - one that has parts over 40 years old. It is based on a much modifed Thorens TD150 (Oldie-but-Goldie). I have a short story about a turntable that fits in well with the Old Tools philosophy: a few years ago, my wife and I were out for a daily constitutional along the river at the bottom of our road, when I spied part of a turntable lying at the kerb. Once every few months, each shire/council has a junk collection day and residents toss out what they wish to be collected by the garbos (garbage collectors for non-Australians). One of the swankier homes in our area decided to toss out a part of a turntable. I recognised it as a Rega 3. A little further down the road were some more parts. As I progressed, I collected all and could not believe my luck. Taking them home I discovered that only the lacky band (elastic band for non-Australians) needed replacement. These are Good turntables. Lucky me. With regard to your build … first, my congrats on what you have done. Two points to look into next time. The first is when shooting, you may wish to chamfer the rear of the board beforehand. This will prevent the spelching you showed. http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/Setting%20Up%20and%20Using%2 0a%20Shooting%20Board4_html_6da4ff98.jpg">http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeT ools/Setting%20Up%20and%20Using%20a%20Shooting%20Board4_html_6da4ff98.jpg Secondly, the tearout when rebating was due to the edge of your blade not being aligned with the nicker. And blades must be sharp when planing across grain. Perfect alignment creates a clean edge first time … http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/Raisingapanel_html_m6cc3658f.jpg Alternately, plane just short of the line and finish with a shoulder plane. Regards from Perth Derek |
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261676 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2017‑02‑16 | Re: A simple pine box |
Back in the day (late 70's, early 80's) we used to buy the vinyl, but to preserve the grooves, , we would record our disks onto cassette tapes (other ancient tech), play the tapes till they wore out, melted on the dashboard, tangled into that mess that only a #2 pencil could fix. Then record the album again. I recall my smoked plexi covered turntable had a dedicated cassette deck for this express purpose. Looking back I think this had more to do with portability, but my friends and I convinced ourselves of all sorts of silly notions back in our youth. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Dragon List |
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261677 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2017‑02‑16 | Re: A simple pine box |
Thank you Derek, for the tip on alignment of the rabbet plane iron and nicker. I'd fiddled with the plane for a bit, and blamed my materials more than my set up. In the end, your follow up suggestion is what worked for me. Planing a bit short of the lines and finishing up with side rabbett and shoulder planes. The kid loves the vinyl, says she can hear the music better. At just under the age of majority here in the US, she has never actually "owned" a physical object that equates with music. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Derek Cohen |
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261678 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> | 2017‑02‑16 | Re: A simple pine box |
Apparently, it is becoming a thing to go back to vinyl recording media. Recently, one of my sons (21 years old) has gotten into vinyl records. He wanted a turntable for Christmas. Personally, I don't get it, but to each his own. Doc On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Michael Suwczinsky |
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261679 | Rock Harris <nombre7@g...> | 2017‑02‑16 | Re: A simple pine box |
Might not even be out of the realm of probabilities. The younger folks these days don't even get CDs anymore, (usually) only MP3s, which is an inferior, lossy format.... This thread is relevant to me because I plan on making a slew of shelves (book and otherwise), and the pointers are very helpful. rock harris lesser programming deity, tyro woodworker, and aficionado of obsolete machinery 314.221.5941 sent from my BatPhone.... |
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261687 | Nick Jonkman <njonkman@x...> | 2017‑02‑16 | Re: A simple pine box |
I started buying records in the mid 50's. I would be surprised if there are not more than 500 in my collection. Mostly country. Many single 45s and mostly albums. About 50 or more 78s such as Gene Autry, Wilf Carter, Bing Crosby and even one of Johnny Cash with Teenage Queen which may be quite rare. have many CDs too but still enjoy many of the vinyls. My grand son now about 22 loves my vinyl collection. I even bought a turntable to hook to my computer so I can load them onto my computer and with software I have installed I can remove noises , clicks etc and record them onto CDs to make up my own albums if I want to for portability. Nick |
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