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251728 | Malcolm Thomas <idraconus@i...> | 2014‑11‑18 | a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
note i did not say 'value', as this can be very subjective. http://media-cache- ak0.pinimg.com/236x/67/4a/5c/674a5c63040309ff03bd8798e2af6e10.jpg">http://media- cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/67/4a/5c/674a5c63040309ff03bd8798e2af6e10.jpg this is sample image only from the public domain. what would one expect to pay for the smaller No 2? in reasonable working condition, no bit. i have a No 1, so need/want the No 2 to complete the pair. have seen No 1's for anywhere from US$20 up to over US$50, but these are relatively more common than the No 2. same or a little more than the No 1, or significantly more ? i am trying to be reasonably rational here and keep emotion out of it, or i will end up paying too much !! ha ! Cheers, Mal Sent using Mail on iPad 2------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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251731 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
Funny how, it happens that you get a number 3 and a number 5 and all of a sudden, there is the "need" to have the number 4 (or whatever size) to complete the set. I certainly have used that excuse to justify to SWMBO as to why I spent $xxxx to buy some gadget. My so is filled with tools I bought like this, but never use. I'm not criticizing, I just find it funny. I think it is fair to say that most of us on this last are guilty of this to some degree or another. I know that I am. Doc Now back to fleabay. I just have to find that hickie -jigger in that super rare size of 3.74653. On Nov 18, 2014 6:20 AM, "Malcolm Thomas" |
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251733 | Malcolm Thomas <idraconus@i...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
collectors Malady i guess doc ! Cheers, Mal Sent using Mail on iPad 2 > On 18 Nov 2014, at 21:37, John Holladay |
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251738 | "S or J" <jstudio@t...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
John Holladay wrote: "Funny how, it happens that you get a number 3 and a number 5 and all of a sudden, there is the "need" to have the number 4 (or whatever size) to complete the set." Hi Doc Indeed that reasoning is a slippery slope towards what might actually become an obsession or "collection" even though we try never, ever to pronounce that term around SWMBO ;-) My old plane accumulation started with an okay Stanley 4 and then a very nice 6 -- and eventually I filled in from 3 through 8, mostly the C variants. Only the rarity and price prevented my then acquiring a 1 and 2, and I sorta have that under control now... By under control, I mean not actively seeking out the rest, but willing to get one if it comes up locally and at a sane and irresistible price. Or am I just kidding myself? ...We'll see ;-) Steve in Thunder Bay, Ontario |
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251739 | William Ghio <bghio@m...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:36 PM, S or J |
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251740 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
You are going to score cheap Mal! Don't worry. Just stake it out and wait for one to fall through the cracks. It will. Its not a tool that not everyone is already looking for. Collecting what everyone else already wants? That always was foolish. Unless you have a huge disposable income and plan to part with it quickly. Otherwise collecting what everyone else already wants? Is no fun. Finding the "holes" as in Reid #2, as in, its scarce but nobody wants it? Cool!! In another 2, or 20, or 120 years (nobody knows) it will be sizzling hot property as a collectible. Its old, its cool, its scarce. It might as well be a Stanley #1 in a box, if it survives another 200 years. Nice choice! If I had one I'd send it to you just cause. But mine is a #1 too. yours Scott -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.n et/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcr est.net/kitty/hpages/index.html ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4213/8591 - Release Date: 11/18/14 |
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251742 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: Fwd: Re: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
My weakness is saws and measuring and marking tools. I love my Starretts. I can hardly pass up on a nice square regardless of brand. I probably have 20 plus of various shapes and sizes. As far as saws are concerned, I'm not much into brand as much as age and condition. If I see what looks to be a PRE-WWII saw with a straight plate, decent tote and even the remotest chance to raise an etch, they just seem to follow me home - especially the smaller sizes 18-22" and then don't even let me start on back saws. That's another thing altogether. It really is sad. I just can't stand that they otherwise will become someone's at canvas. I get shaking like a junky when I come across them. Somebody help me please. Doc |
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251743 | Ed Minch <ruby@m...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:36 PM, William Ghio |
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251744 | David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> | 2014‑11‑18 | Re: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
From: William Ghio >Yep, just kidding oneself. The first several of any "set" come cheap, it's that last one to finish >the set that sets you back! That’s a common line from the dealers of various items. “The first one’s free. The next one is $100.00. Dave N. aka Old Sneelock ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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251769 | Malcolm Thomas <idraconus@i...> | 2014‑11‑19 | Re: Re: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
I am doomed then. So what is it with all this over anxious desires of ours to acquire certain large numbers of items such as spiral screwdrivers or back saws, or planes, or chisels etc?? Sure we can use some of course, but I probably have 20+ spiral screwdrivers now, I have no hope in heck of using them all. Do we simply hang on to them so they do no get lost in history ? Do we make sure they are kept safe for a few more years and then, hopefully, sell them on at a small profit (they are now older and perhaps harder to come by) ? Is it simply because we enjoy the quest for some obscure item and feel some sense of achievement when we finally find it ? or what ?? Maybe some of our aptly learned professionals could postulate what happens in the dark crevices of our minds here.....Derek ?? Cheers Mal On Nov 19, 2014, at 03:17 AM, John Holladay |
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251748 | John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> | 2014‑11‑21 | RE: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
Earlier in the thread, Steve wrote: >"Or am I just kidding myself? ...We'll see" No, you can quit at any time. ANY time. Just like the rest of us tell ourselves that we can. John RuthShivering and quaking with withdrawal symptoms because the Columbus Farmers Market, one of my favorite "Fleas", just has a 4-alarm fire!http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/11/four-alarm_blaze_destroys_build ing_at_historic_columbus_farmers_market_in_burlington_county.html#incart_river"> http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/11/four-alarm_blaze_destroys_building_at _historic_columbus_farmers_market_in_burlington_county.html#incart_river ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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251760 | David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> | 2014‑11‑21 | Re: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
>John RuthShivering and quaking with withdrawal symptoms because the Columbus Farmers Market, one of my favorite "Fleas", just has a 4-alarm fire!http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/11/four-alarm_blaze_destroys_build ing_at_historic_columbus_farmers_market_in_burlington_county.h">http://www.nj.co m/mercer/index.ssf/2014/11/four-alarm_blaze_destroys_building_at_historic_columb us_farmers_market_in_burlington_county.h>tml#incart_river ------------------------------------------------------------------------ That is really horrible John. Not just for the loss of tools but lively hoods. I would imagine there are few vendors with insurance on their booth contents. |
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251775 | Bruce Zenge <brucensherry@g...> | 2014‑11‑22 | Re: First attempt at carving |
Nice drive-by with the triumph in the background..... Nice carving, too. Bruce Z. Des Moines, IA O > > I've been busy doing a bit of carving - it is good fun and not as difficult as I thought: > > http://s12.photobucket.com/user/AdrianJones34/slideshow/First%20go%20 at%20Carving?sort=4">http://s12.photobucket.com/user/AdrianJones34/slideshow/Fir st%20go%20at%20Carving?sort=4 > |
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251776 | Michael Blair <branson2@s...> | 2014‑11‑22 | Re: First attempt at carving |
> Nice drive-by with the triumph in the background..... Nice carving, > too. How did I miss the old TR?! Good to see. Guess I was too busy staring at the carving. Nice carving indeed. What wood are you using? Mike in Sacto |
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251777 | David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> | 2014‑11‑22 | Re: First attempt at carving |
From: : Adrian Jones > > I've been busy doing a bit of carving - it is good fun and not as difficult as I thought: > > http://s12.photobucket.com/user/AdrianJones34/slideshow/First%20go%20 at%20Carving?sort=4">http://s12.photobucket.com/user/AdrianJones34/slideshow/Fir st%20go%20at%20Carving?sort=4 > Yesterday I was looking at the carving. Very nice indeed. This morning the carving vise caught my eye. Clever use of materials. I may borrow your idea. Not right away though. It will take a couple months to perk its way to the top of the stack. Dave N. aka Old Sneelock |
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251778 | "Adrian Jones" <adrianjones747@c...> | 2014‑11‑22 | RE: First attempt at carving |
Mike asks " What wood are you using?" Juniper. I'm on a second one in basswood (from ebay) and that is a joy. For instance, I couldn't get the V tool to cut nicely in the juniper but no problem in the basswood. The lumber yard had some tupelo but it needs to dry out first - not sure what that is like but apparently tupelo is favored by the duck decoy carvers so it should be good also. Having no artistic ability, I was kind of put off carving but it is all done for you in this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1565233298/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s 00?ie=UTF8&psc=1">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1565233298/ref=oh_aui_detailp age_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Print the plans out to whatever scale of your wood, trace it onto the block, band saw off the outline, then just round everything over. The beautiful thing is that if you blunder no one will know the difference (unlike, for example, duck carving). In fact, for the second one I'm going to try a little asymmetry to see if it adds to the grotesqueness. Plus it is going to be at roof level so the pressure is off. I had amassed a collection of proper carving chisels but the tool I used most was a regular ol' carving knife, of the kind favored by St. Roy for laying out dovetails, etc. Bottom right in one of the pictures. Many (OK, one person) asked about the home made vise - I'll post some pictures later today. Cheers |
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251779 | Michael Blair <branson2@s...> | 2014‑11‑22 | RE: First attempt at carving |
> I'm on a second one in basswood (from ebay) and that is a joy. For instance, I couldn't get the V tool to cut nicely in the > juniper but no problem in the basswood. Basswood is the best for carving, exactly because it is easily cut across the grain. It was the choice for the Iroquois "False Face" masks. Hard to find a wood more suited for carving. Mike in Sacto |
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251780 | "Adrian Jones" <adrianjones747@c...> | 2014‑11‑22 | RE: First attempt at carving |
Have you seen this tutorial? Seems to cover it all: http://www.bob-easton.com/blog/wp- content/uploads/2011/04/SelectingAndSharpe">http://www.bob-easton.com/blog/wp- content/uploads/2011/04/SelectingAndSharpe ningYourVtool.pdf Cheers -----Original Message----- From: James Thompson [mailto:jdthompsonca@s...]">mailto:jdthompsonca@s...] Sent: Saturday, 22 November, 2014 10:48 AM To: Michael Blair Cc: Adrian Jones; oldtools List Subject: Re: [OldTools] First attempt at carving I know how popular basswood is for carving, but I never liked it. It is just a dead mud brown with no character. I prefer to carve hardwoods. This requires VERY sharp tools. It took me a while to learn to sharpen my carving tools, and the most difficult one to learn to sharpen is the vee tool. But it can be done. I think I would like to write a little tutorial about it. I have read a lot of said tutorials, but none really unlocked the door. I gotta think on that. It is obviously not an easy thing to learn, and certainly not easy to teach, or everyone would already know how. |
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251782 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2014‑11‑22 | Re: Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
On 11/18/2014 9:53 PM, Malcolm Thomas wrote: > So what is it with all this over anxious desires of ours to acquire > certain large numbers of items such as spiral screwdrivers or back > saws, or planes, or chisels etc?? > > Sure we can use some of course, but I probably have 20+ spiral > screwdrivers now, I have no hope in heck of using them all. > > Do we simply hang on to them so they do no get lost in history ? > > Do we make sure they are kept safe for a few more years and then, > hopefully, sell them on at a small profit (they are now older and > perhaps harder to come by) ? > > Is it simply because we enjoy the quest for some obscure item and feel > some sense of achievement when we finally find it ? > > or what ?? Maybe all of the above - and then some. The pleasure of restoring, making something work well, for example. Don |
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251783 | JAMES THOMPSON <oldmillrat@m...> | 2014‑11‑22 | Re: First attempt at carving |
Yes, I have seen it, and at the risk of seeming flippant, I wonder if anyone can actually read this tutorial, and then walk over to the bench and correctly sharpen a vee tool? I made a jig to hold my vee tool in the correct position while I rub it on the stones. This works, and anyone could do it. Freehand is almost impossible without a lot of practice. The di On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Adrian Jones |
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251810 | Derek Cohen <derekcohen@i...> | 2014‑11‑24 | Re: a.h.reid no 2 prices. |
Mal wrote: ... So what is it with all this over anxious desires of ours to acquire certain large numbers of items such as spiral screwdrivers or back saws, or planes, or chisels etc?? ...Maybe some of our aptly learned professionals could postulate what happens in the dark crevices of our minds here.....Derek ?? Mal, really ... have you seen my shed? :) If I offered an opinion, it would surely be a case of the pot calling the kettle black! :) Regards from Perth Derek------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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