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247284 "Peter H" <p-j-h@w...> 2014‑04‑19 Re: Chains: was Why is 16" so important?
Tony,

Help me here, was there also a surveyor's measuring device
which was a steel band that had brass markers clamped to it
at predetermined intervals?

Somewhere in the fog of my memory I remember seeing something 
like that rolled up single file in a very narrow canvas "spool".  

Cheers
Peter H in Perth
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From: "Tony Blanks" 
To:"JAMES THOMPSON" 
Cc:"oldtools List" 
Sent:Fri, 18 Apr 2014 17:53:49 +1000
Subject:Re: Chains: was [OldTools] Why is 16" so important?

 On 18/04/2014 3:37 PM, JAMES THOMPSON wrote (in part):
 > >From Wikipedia:
 >
 > "A chain is a unit of length. It measures 66 feet, or 22 yards, or
100 links, or 4rods.

 Jim,

 Don't forget the poles and perches, each of which is the same length
as 
 a rod, 16'6".

 The physical iron or steel gunter's chain which was once used by 
 surveyors contains 100 individual links, each of length7.92 inches
(that 
 is a fraction under 7 15/16ths of an inch for those who have mastered

 neither metrics nor decimals), with a loop handle on each end to
stretch 
 it out straight, and brass tags at intervals along the chain, each 
 differently shaped to allow easy recognition.

 By the time I started (and finished) as a "chain-man", a surveyor's 
 off-sider, gunter's chains were of mainly historical interest, albeit
I 
 used them on, along with a chainmans' staff and axe for the
preliminary 
 laying out of survey lines. Short of a malicious act a gunter's chain

 is just about indestructible, an advantage in rough going. By then
the 
 gunter's chain was superseded in use for most purposes by thin steel 
 bands, marked in feet and inches on one side and links on the other, 
 carried on a roll, like a huge cloth tape (but still one chain in 
 length). I can still remember the fun we had when several of these 
 bands were brought in by the local surveying firm to be checked and 
 recertified. There was a testing rig set up along one wall of the 
 car-park under the Lands Department building and we would upset
people 
 by closing the car-park for the morning while we set heaters going to

 bring the air, and the test rig, up to the certification temperature

 The actual certification was done by a licensed surveyor.

 As the lackey, my role in this production was to run around turning 
 heaters on and off, unroll and re-roll bands, fetch tea and coffee
from 
 across the street and to be blamed. Someone must be at fault if the 
 gear is too hot or cold (ditto the tea or coffee). The person who
gets 
 blamed may not like it, but it allows the licensed surveyor to blow
off 
 steam if things are not going well.

 Here in Australia the early land grants by which the government 
 parcelled out lands to settlers were all described in "metes and 
 bounds". Starting from an established point, usually a corner of a 
 previously granted parcel of land the new plot boundary would be 
 described thus: "From the north corner of the parcel previously
granted 
 to Mr Jas Smith, In a north-westerly direction for 1 mile, 2 furlongs

 and three chains to a stone cairn, thence in a south westerly
direction 
 to the north bank of Hobbs Creek, thence by the northern bank of the 
 said creek, thence by a continuation of the northwest boundary of the

 parcel previously granted to the said Jas Smith to the point of 
 commencement." And these descriptions could run to several pages for
a 
 block with more than four corners.

 Now with reflectors, lasers, rangefinders, dimensionally corrected 
 aerial photographs and differential GPS some of the magic has gone
out 
 of cadastral surveying But it is still possible to get an
unacceptably 
 large "error of close" and have to start the job again from scratch,
or 
 to spend several days trying to find some indication of the one-time 
 existence of the afore mentioned "stone cairn". And many of the long 
 established agricultural properties have not had their boundary 
 descriptions converted to modern format, so Aus surveyors still need
to 
 be able to think in terms of otherwise obsolete measurement systems.

 Any surveyors on the Porch?

 Regards,

 Tony Blanks
 in Hobart, Tasmania, and reaching back 40+ years.......

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