In a message dated 98-01-20 17:05:52 EST, johnl@i... writes:

> Assuming I am not out of my mind (but I would assume that were I,
> wouldn't I?), is there anywhere I could get a new iron for the plane
> (Hock seems often mentioned) and is there anything peculiar about making
> a wedge for it? If there is more to it than a simple wedge, is there
> anywhere I could find a picture or drawing of a wedge to work from?
> 

John,

Hock makes the iron and Lee Valley has a little $6 book that will tell you
everything you need for making a wedge. You can make a plane from the info
there, but it would be a stretch to say it tells you *everything* you need for
that.

Here is the website for Lee Valley:

http://www.leevalley.com/lvtmain.htm">Lee Valley To
ols & Veritas®


http://www.leevalley.com/lvtmain.htm 

I don't have my catalog handy, but I expect you can get the Hock iron from
them as well.

And yes, you're crazy, but in the best way.

Cheers/Don Carron

I would like to introduce myself, and then impose on you all by asking a
couple of questions.

I am a retired lawyer. I worked my way through law school a few decades
ago doing gunstock and gunsmithing work, and since then have done little
woodworking save for occasionally making something in the house worse by
fixing it.

But now I am retired. I built a nice work/tool shed in back and I find I
enjoy sitting toolshed watching the squirrels dig up my bulbs, the birds
peck holes in the house, and the rabbits eat my vegetables.  I have a
son in ollege who is into woodworking, and that has sort of rekindled my
interest.

I don't have any power in the toolshed-- ergo hand tools.

I do have some air dried rough oak planks that are 5/4 x 24' with a few
knots, about 5" to 8" wide.  I have the promise of some more this
spring, along with some cherry planks.

It seems to me that the toolshed needs a better floor than plywood,
particulalry if I put in a wood stove.As I have thought about it a wood
stove seems a marvelous idea.  My wife is very smart and can spot a
bothced job, particularly one made of expensive materials, easily. The
wood stove could provide a simple means of handling the evidence.

So I am thinking about using the oak for a floor.  The advice most have
given me is to take it to the local lumberyard and have them tongue and
groove and plane it.

I also have the carcass of a wood plane.  The front says ---HO TOOL CO.
and then has the number "28"-- which I beleive is the length. It is in
good shape, but is missing the iron and the wedge.

Am I out of my mind to think of jointing these boards with that plane
and a jack plane? (i don't think I am up to tongue and grooving them,
but I do know how to dowel and peg). A rough calculation tells me that
there would be about 900' total linear feet of edge to plane ( and
perhaps an additional 100' to learn on ).

My only comparison is the roof of the toolshed.  That took 4214 nails as
I calculated while sitting on the roof while waiting for my wife to come
back for more nails.  that was too much work, but 900 seems a much more
managable number.

Assuming I am not out of my mind (but I would assume that were I,
wouldn't I?), is there anywhere I could get a new iron for the plane
(Hock seems often mentioned) and is there anything peculiar about making
a wedge for it? If there is more to it than a simple wedge, is there
anywhere I could find a picture or drawing of a wedge to work from?

Many thanks for your kind advice.

-- 
Regards,

John Lederer	
Oregon, Wisconsin

PS.  I also have a vise of some sort.  Cast iron. About 15" tall.  The
jaws are  borad wings about 8" klong, shaped like the clip on a
clipboard.  A very large "95" is cast into the iron frame.  It is made
to be screw clamped onto a table.  SI this a saw vise?

At 04:00 PM 1/20/98 -0600, John H. Lederer wrote:
>
>I am a retired lawyer. 

Well we won't that against you...
>
>So I am thinking about using the oak for a floor.  The advice most have
>given me is to take it to the local lumberyard and have them tongue and
>groove and plane it.
>
Probably not a bad idea.  I'm in the throes of getting started on a shop
myself and I think about the karmic implications of  T&G'ing enough 1"
white oak to do a (at this point) 16x20 to 20x24 floor and wonder about my
sanity.

>I also have the carcass of a wood plane.  The front says ---HO TOOL CO.
>and then has the number "28"-- which I beleive is the length. It is in
>good shape, but is missing the iron and the wedge.
>
Ohio Tool, makers of fine planes and other tools.  One of the more common
makers of wooden planes as well as the occassional metal plane.  The number
28 is what they called their invoice number (think of it as a catalog # for
ordering).

>Am I out of my mind to think of jointing these boards with that plane
>and a jack plane? (i don't think I am up to tongue and grooving them,
>but I do know how to dowel and peg). A rough calculation tells me that
>there would be about 900' total linear feet of edge to plane ( and
>perhaps an additional 100' to learn on ).
>
Jointing them isn't to bad, keep in mind that oak, unless perfectly
grained, will be interesting to work.  My workbench top is oak and two of
the 4x6's that make it up, have at least 4 grain direction changes over a 8
foot span. 
>
>Assuming I am not out of my mind (but I would assume that were I,
>wouldn't I?), is there anywhere I could get a new iron for the plane
>(Hock seems often mentioned) and is there anything peculiar about making
>a wedge for it? If there is more to it than a simple wedge, is there
>anywhere I could find a picture or drawing of a wedge to work from?
>
The Hock irons are geared towards the Stanley planes.  However on the first
Monday of each and every month you are allowed to post a WTB (that's Wanted
To Buy) message and if you happen to mention the width of said iron
(measure the mouth of the plane), I'm sure that someone will have something
to sell.   As to the wedge shape, I'm sure that someone on here would have
a picture to stick up of one (no digital camera yet).  

>PS.  I also have a vise of some sort.  Cast iron. About 15" tall.  The
>jaws are  borad wings about 8" klong, shaped like the clip on a
>clipboard.  A very large "95" is cast into the iron frame.  It is made
>to be screw clamped onto a table.  SI this a saw vise?
>
Sure sounds like it.

Welcome aboard

Tony

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           Student of old trades
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Anthony Seo wrote:
> 
> At 04:00 PM 1/20/98 -0600, John H. Lederer wrote:
> >
> >I am a retired lawyer.
> 
> Well we won't that against you...
> >
> >So I am thinking about using the oak for a floor.  The advice most have
> >given me is to take it to the local lumberyard and have them tongue and
> >groove and plane it.
> >
> Probably not a bad idea.  I'm in the throes of getting started on a shop
> myself and I think about the karmic implications of  T&G'ing enough 1"
> white oak to do a (at this point) 16x20 to 20x24 floor and wonder about my
> sanity.
>

I look at it this way.  My younger son spends two hours after school
each day lifting weights.  I could push a plane. 

Regards,

John Lederer	
Oregon, Wisconsin