This is a long shot, I know, but I need to find a piece of this moulding:

https://groups.io/g/oldtools/photo/270151/3661091

I only need about 3’ and it’s going to be painted. If anyone happens to have a
piece they want to sell or could suggest somewhere I might be able to buy it,
please let me know.

Thanks!

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I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.

Dan,

Please use a Contour Gage to trace the profile of the molding onto graph paper.
Then, post a scan of that, showing the scale ( Ex: "Each box is 1/4" square )

That will give the porch enough info to identify the molding profile.

If we can't furnish a piece, we can at least advise how it could be fabricated.
( Hollows & Rounds, Scratch Stock, etc. )

Is this a built-up molding with multiple cross sections added together to create
the total ?

John Ruth

Not enough detail to really identify the contours.  But I think it
unlikely that anyone has a duplicate.  Simplest thing would be to make a
scratch stock blade.  For 3 feet it's probably the best solution. 

Mike in Woodland

If you’re up for it Dan, this looks like a great slippery slope for getting
into hollows and rounds. Perfect for this short a run. Matt Bickford’s book
“Mouldings in Practice” is a great resource.

If not, I’d second John’s advice.

Cheers,
Alex

Thanks for the feedback. I’m going to attempt to make it myself. It’s not going
to be an exact replica, but hopefully it’ll get the job done. I’ll report back.
Thanks!

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Dan,

The original might be built up from multiple sections.  Some, if not all, of the
sections may be standard mouldings.

I still think that the logical first step is to put a contour gage on it and
trace the contour to paper, preferably graph paper.

( I've seen contour gages for sale at hardware stores and home centers, they are
easily obtainable and tool which every Galoot should have. )

There may yet be help available on this porch, but I, for one, can't discern the
profile from the image provided.

John

Here’s what I got:

https://groups.io/g/oldtools/photo/270151/3662322

Each square is 3/16” 

I plan to rip thin strips for each “level” and then round each level over
(except for the top level). I think the 2nd level (from the top) is actually a
hollow rather than a round but it’s actually hard to tell and my contour gauge
kind of sucks.

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I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.

I agree, sort of:  Nowadays, I'm seeing similar mouldings made of built up
pieces. I have several pieces of furniture where it's a 2" wide piece, with
a 1" piece stuck on top.  Back then, that may have been made from a single
piece.

But back to your problem, it almost looks like 4 pieces of 1/4 round
stacked up and offset outboard a bit for each.

Kirk in HMB, CA

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:20 AM John Ruth  wrote:

> Dan,
>
> The original might be built up from multiple sections.  Some, if not all,
> of the sections may be standard mouldings.
>
> I still think that the logical first step is to put a contour gage on it
> and trace the contour to paper, preferably graph paper.
>
> ( I've seen contour gages for sale at hardware stores and home centers,
> they are easily obtainable and tool which every Galoot should have. )
>
> There may yet be help available on this porch, but I, for one, can't
> discern the profile from the image provided.
>
> John
> > On Aug 7, 2023, at 6:59 AM, Dan Beck  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback. I’m going to attempt to make it myself. It’s
> not going to be an exact replica, but hopefully it’ll get the job done.
> I’ll report back. Thanks!
>
>
>


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Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, CA 

wow, optical illusion, the bottom piece in the photo looks like the
negative shape, or flat shaped like the top, rather than what you drew.

But, the overall shape looks like it could be easily done by stacking
shapes on top of each other.

I do have an Ohio Tools 39 bead that was converted to a 3/16" radius plane
which could help, if you need it

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 8:57 AM Dan Beck  wrote:

> Here’s what I got:
>
> https://groups.io/g/oldtools/photo/270151/3662322
>
> Each square is 3/16”
>
> I plan to rip thin strips for each “level” and then round each level over
> (except for the top level). I think the 2nd level (from the top) is
> actually a hollow rather than a round but it’s actually hard to tell and my
> contour gauge kind of sucks.
>
>
>


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Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, CA 

You’re not the only person to comment on the optical illusion like
characteristic of my photo. I guess I should have posted more than one photo.

I agree that it should be fairly easy to create by stacking. And thank you very
much for your offer of the 3/16” radius plane! But I think I’m good. I’ll let
you know if I change my mind.

Best,
Dan 

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I wanted to follow up on this. As suggested above, I decided to recreate this
moulding and other moulding that I need for this project myself. I built a new
and much needed closet in our foyer and had to make all of the time -
baseboards, crown molding, and the moulding around the door. It not perfect but
I think it came out pretty good. It’s the first thing you see when you come thru
the front door.

Here’s a photo of the door trim:

https://groups.io/g/oldtools/photo/270151/3679087

Thanks again to anyone who offered advice. Your help is truly appreciated. 

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I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.

Dan,  thanks for taking time to show us the result.  
That’s a good piece of work.  Certainly adds some gravitas and dignity to a
doorway when you take time to add those extras.

Is that the final finish paintwork?  When I zoom in I see what look like nail
holes that are saying to me ‘Filler’

Ever since I read some old books on painting and decorating I start by assuming
that any paint finished work needs some fine filler, if only to grain fill, then
a rub out with the cork block and abrasive.

And the shots of the long tool rest and what looks like a fluted column on the
lathe…. ???  More good stuff?  Or did I miss a post about that.


Richard Wilson
yorkshireman Galoot in Northumbria



> On 18 Sep 2023, at 14:27, Dan Beck  wrote:
> 
> I wanted to follow up on this. As suggested above, I decided to recreate this
moulding and other moulding that I need for this project myself. I built a new
and much needed closet in our foyer and had to make all of the time -
baseboards, crown molding, and the moulding around the door. It not perfect but
I think it came out pretty good. It’s the first thing you see when you come thru
the front door.
> 
> Here’s a photo of the door trim:
> 
> https://groups.io/g/oldtools/photo/270151/3679087
> 
> Thanks again to anyone who offered advice. Your help is truly appreciated. 
> 
> -- 
> I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Yorkshireman Galoot
in the most northerly county, farther north even than Yorkshire
IT #300

Hey Richard,

Good eye. Yeah my wife did all the painting (bless her soul) but she did it
before I filled in the nail holes. They have since been filled and she’s going
to do I final coat of paint this week.

The tool rest and lathe photos were from another post. 

-Dan

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I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.

Nicely done, Dan!  Thanks for the "after" photos with the after action
report putting a nice bow on the project.  This reminds me of a recent
interaction with a neighbor.  A nice, youngish couple bought a flat down
the street and I see the husband periodically with the garage door open
working on projects in his shop space.  A few weekends back, I'm down in my
shop and my wife came home saying she just stopped to chat with the
neighbor (and his father) who were busy trying to fabricate a section of
moulding to match the non-standard profile in their 1925 home.  She was
very perplexed by what she was seeing and urged me to go down and see if I
could be of any assistance.  I rolled up to find them routing the profile
of a cross section of moulding into a 3/4" board with one of those fancy
Shaper Origin handheld CNC routers.  They had done a number of test pieces
but the shape still wasn't dialed in right.  Now it was my turn to be
confused.  What's the plan, here?

Well, turns out if you make 240 of these cross sectional pieces and then
glue them end to end, you'll get a section of molding the size they need
for the job.  Holding a piece of cross section in my hand, I asked them if
they were committed going down the road they had already embarked upon.
When they answered "no", I told them how I would go about the job with a
few hollow and round planes.  After explaining what those were, they still
seemed a little dubious.  So I asked them if I could take the  cross
section back to my shop and I'd be back in 30 minutes with something for
them to look at as proof of concept.  I had a 4' piece of scrap poplar in a
suitable width and was further delighted when I realized that underneath
the heap of debris on top of my table saw, a 3/8" stacked dado assembly was
still mounted on the arbor from a project last year!  This would save me
some time towards the already over promised turn-around-time.   But I had
most of the shape accurately roughed out in under 20 minutes and then took
the project to the bench.  It took two hollow sizes, two rounds, and a
shoulder plane to get the rest of the profile dialed in.  By the time I was
done with the sanding profiles, I was only 15 minutes over my promised
delivery time - and my shirt was soaked in sweat.

I found them where I'd left them and handed them the newly minted section.
They took it upstairs and it fit in seamlessly.   I'll admit that I did
register some delight telling them how it was done and how he could
actually do most of the work in his shop with tools they had.  All they
needed was to do the H&R work on my bench and I'd be glad to show them how
and let them have at it.  They were soon to be leaving on a trip and would
be gone through Labor Day (May 1st, Jeff).  I haven't heard back from them
yet.  We'll see what becomes of it.

Paul, in SF.

That's some very nice work, Dan. 

-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools@g...  On Behalf Of Dan Beck
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 9:27 AM
To: oldtools@g...
Subject: Re: [oldtools] Moulding

I wanted to follow up on this. As suggested above, I decided to recreate this
moulding and other moulding that I need for this project myself. I built a new
and much needed closet in our foyer and had to make all of the time -
baseboards, crown molding, and the moulding around the door. It not perfect but
I think it came out pretty good. It’s the first thing you see when you come thru
the front door.

Here’s a photo of the door trim:

https://groups.io/g/oldtools/photo/270151/3679087

This is a great story, Paul. Thanks for sharing. It’s awesome that you were
willing to help this guy. I know how awesome it is because the people on this
forum have helped me several times and it means the world to me and is so
appreciated.

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I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.