OldTools Archive

Recent Bios FAQ

277427 Mark van Roojen <mvr1@e...> 2023‑05‑26 Re: Need to recover the plan for the circa 1999 Saw Till Galoot Group Project
It looks like Adam and Kirk have found the files but just in case I have a
message from JIm O'Brian (sent to this list on 9/29/1999) about the project that
points to a couple of old links to saw till project plans with a modification he
seems to have designed. One is a dead link to shavings which may or may not be
what Adam and Kirk found.  The other is a dead link to a different site that one
might also be able to find in the Wayback machine.  I was going to use the
information in the message to find the plans in the Wayback machine but Kirk
just did that.  I'll copy the message below in case the information helps anyone
wants to look for the other plan he links in the Wayback machine.  Here is that

Gentle Galoots,
Greetings from due north.  Fall colors will peak by the weekend.

Ken Greenberg and John Gunterman have been gracious enough to host my
abbreviated sketches of a saw keeper mechanism for the galoot saw till
project.  Check out the following URLs:

where * is one of txt for the explanation, dxf, doc, or wpd.  

        It is with some trepidation that I offer additions to a design of such
elegant simplicity - and from a committee no less.  The following text
might help explain the drawings

        The keeper is made of five pieces of 1/4" material - four tabs and a
panel.   I'm guessing the 1/4" material is both stiff and flexible enough
to serve its respective purposes.  I haven't tried to engineer the best
dimensions or tolerances, but the principle seems sound.  The top two tabs
are hinge plates with holes drilled through, and the bottom two tabs are
catch plates with depressions to catch the pin heads.  All four pins are
glued or friction fitted into the sides of the till.  

        The joints can be reinforced with small triangular glue blocks.  Small
finger joints or dovetails are also a possibility. The tabs could also be
combined to make one-piece ends with a hole on top and a dent on the
bottom.  Beefier sections (5/16-1/2"?) could be tried.  A bottom keeper
could be added for the big saws if necessary.  Two more keepers could be
made for the smaller saws if desired.  Spacer blocks can be glued
underneath the keeper panel if necessary.  There's always something.

        Panel size: I was thinking about 4-5" x width of the till .  If you have
longer saws of varying lengths, put your saws in order of
ascending/descending length, and the panel can be tapered or perhaps curved
to mimic the "blend " on the side of the till in order to cover the last
2-3" of the saws. The hinge pin plates would stay where they are, and one
of the catch plates would move down accordingly.   I'm trying to avoid
using plywood if I can.  

        The bottom of the tills would either have another keep or a ledge/stop
shown in the original drawings) to hold the saws in place.  In the sawtill
drawing, dovetail/tenon/backsaw tills are  on the right side.  There would
need to be a divider running vertically to separate the sections and
attach/catch the keep(s).  

        I hope the drawings are reasonably lucid. I put them together rather
quickly, so I know there are some errors with hidden lines, etc.  They are
in  BMP format in Microsoft Word and WordPerfect 8, and JPG.  There is also
a DXF drawing  for those of you with Autocad or some other vector-based
drawing program.

Please direct questions, comments, suggestions, and broadsides to me, since
John and Ken are merely accomplices in good faith. 

Thanks for reading,
Jim O'Brien

End of Quoted Message

Recent Bios FAQ