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262812 Michael Filler 2017‑08‑12 Rosewood, et al
Ed is correct about the latin name for the appendix II woods, and also about the
restrictions on ivory in place for many years.  I wish I was into instrument
making so I would have been aware of this ahead of time.  I could have refused
to sell internationally.
BTW, The fellow that made the video in December probably had no problems up
until then was because the effectivity date wasn't until January.  And
enforcement was weak on Braziallian Rosewood, because they were not equipped to
differenciate.  The new rule covers a wide range of woods, so they can just
assume if it looks sort of like rosewood then it is probably prohibited.
I was asked how they discovered this particular package contained rosewood.  It
was something I sold on ebay, and the main picture clearly shows the nice
handles on the side pieces.  I had used the ebay global shipping program, who in
turn contracts with Pitney Bowes as their logistics supplier.  PB probably just
uses the supplied reference number, looks at the item on ebay, and have seen
enough stuff to know what is on the radar.
By the way, my buyer was charged about $140 for the shipping (to Sweden) of
which I got about $15 for me to UPS it to Erlanger, KY (from the Chicago area).
I think that is a bit steep.  I would estimate the USPS International postage at
$40, so PB and ebay split about $85 for logistics services (generating the
customs docs).
Seems overpriced to me.
To their credit ebay refunded the customer's money and told me to keep the
payment, as if the sale had gone as planned.  So technically I and my customer
are "made whole".
It is a shame they can't or won't return the item.  I'll happily refund ebay the
payment, so at least someone in the USA can enjoy it.  The restriction is only
on cross border shipments, not a prohibition on possession.  This an old tool
after all, not a kilo of cocaine.
So again, my point for all of this is just so we are all aware the various
governments are being aggressive on the subject of protected species.
Best regards to all galoots.
262813 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2017‑08‑12 Re: Rosewood, et al
Michael

"This an old tool after all, not a kilo of cocaine"

Depends on your point of view.  I always wondered what happened to the pocket
knives that are confiscated at the airport.  I forgot and had to give up a pearl
handled Gerber one time.  One of my million dollar ideas is a machine at the
security line that spits out a prepaid Priority Mail box for you to mail your
item home.

But where are all the Rosewood guitars and 55’s??

Ed Minch
262814 Erik Levin 2017‑08‑12 Re: Rosewood, et al
Ed inquired:>  I always wondered what happened to the pocket knives that are
confiscated at the airport.

These items generally go to auction if they are considered of value to make it
worthwhile. How this is handled depends on location (private contractor, large
lot only, state operated, etc.).
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262822 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2017‑08‑12 Re: Rosewood, et al
The knives confiscated at the airport end up being auctioned off in lots 
on ebay. You can find them easy if you look.
  Oddly, even though used recent production knives usually sell for dirt 
on ebay, something about the confiscated stuff brings high bids. Way 
higher than I would go anyway.

  Fortunately, unless you are running late, TSA has become much more 
sympathetic and will try to help you keep your knife if there is a chance.
   Padded mailers on the counter they haven't thought of yet (super idea Ed)
  but the impoliteness that once accompanied a man losing his knife, is 
gone.
They'll hold it for you up front so you can go back around, retrieve it, 
and walk it to your car. Then come back through security.
     yours Scott

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262823 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2017‑08‑12 Re: Rosewood, et al
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/a
irport-confiscation


And some airports have envelopes for that purpose, never had to use one,
but a friend has, I think in Philly

Kirk in HMB, CA
On Aug 12, 2017 4:03 AM, "Ed Minch"  wrote:



Depends on your point of view.  I always wondered what happened to the
pocket knives that are confiscated at the airport.  I forgot and had to
give up a pearl handled Gerber one time.  One of my million dollar ideas is
a machine at the security line that spits out a prepaid Priority Mail box
for you to mail your item home.

But where are all the Rosewood guitars and 55’s??
262824 Charles Driggs <cdinde@v...> 2017‑08‑12 Re: Rosewood, et al
Now that’s a great change for TSA.  I lost a couple of nice small knives to
their rigid rules.  Now that I won’t fly anymore, losing them to inspections of
the bin contents and wand searches is no longer an issue.  I’m happy not to
stand in those cattle lines too.  I may have to look at some of those TSA
auctions to see if there are any deals out there.

Thanks, Scott!

Charlie
262826 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2017‑08‑12 Re: Rosewood, et al
On 2017-08-12 10:19 AM, Charles Driggs wrote:
> Now that’s a great change for TSA.  I lost a couple of nice small knives to
their rigid rules.  Now that I won’t fly anymore, losing them to inspections of
the bin contents and wand searches is no longer an issue.  I’m happy not to
stand in those cattle lines too.  I may have to look at some of those TSA
auctions to see if there are any deals out there.


This hadn't occurrred to me before now, but I think next time I fly, 
I'll just put stamped  & addressed padded envelope in one of the outside 
pockets of my carry-on bag.

Don

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