> On Jan 31, 2016, at 21:37 , Derek Cohen  wrote:
> 
> David asked .. “if anyone who has used both (vise types) can make
recommendation”
> 
> The answer is simply - you need BOTH.

Like Mike Blair pointed out, this is an overstatement.

> If you plan to build furniture using handtools, then both the shoulder(face)
vise and the tail vise form an intricate team in the work holding process. Yes,
I know that some have gone with a tail vise, but this is a personal decision
that is almost unfathonable to me.

I build furniture using only handtools, and I don't have a permanently
mounted vise on my bench (except for an end vise of sorts that I use
exclusively for resawing). I have a basic Nicholson bench with a split
top and adjustable planing stop, and a crochet on the front. Once you
get used to it, it's really fast and flexible, and there's no vise
handle to walk into. 

I do have a Moxon vise, but I've used it once in the last few years;
holdfasts are quicker and more flexible now. I also have a separate
bench for sharpening/metalworking/etc, and it has a small iron vise
and a Jorgenson face vise. Both get used regularly, but not for wood.

I guess this set of photos shows the workholding options as well as
anything:

https://maxwells.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Mitred-haunched-clamp/

NOTE: my furniture isn't as nice as Derek's, but I think that's more
the craftsman than the tools or lack thereof :).

Adam