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256555 | Mark Jefferis <mark.tango@i...> | 2015‑10‑06 | space saving board storage |
I have roughly 350 board feet of 3 quarter hard maple (8-10 ft lengths), 300 board feet of 3 quarter cherry (8 foot lengths) and 200 board feet of other stuff in varying lengths. The maple and cherry I purchased through a Craigs List ad and had been surfaced and thicknessed top and bottom and 1 side. To date, I have been storing the lumber as I use it in 3 stacks on bottom sticks which rest on epoxied concrete. I have not inserted sticks between the board layers. I live in an art loft that was built in 1916 as a boot factory. The floors and ceilings are 18 inches thick. The ceilings are 12 feet high. I am having thoughts of building leaning racks against the out side walls to store the wood on end similar to what I see at lumber stores. A lot of floor space would be saved with this method. Is leaning/standing the boards on end a method of storage that does not encourage warping and twisting over time? Mark |
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256601 | Bruce Zenge <brucensherry@g...> | 2015‑10‑10 | Re: space saving board storage |
Mark, If you support the length of the boards top to bottom, you should have no problem. If, however, you just support at the top and bottom and nothing in between, you run the risk of bowing the boards lengthwise. Depending on length ( you said 8-10'), you might get away with supporting midway up. I've never been an advocate of upright storage, but you can get away with it using just a bit of thought. Twisting should be no more issue than normal, regardless. Just my opinion. Bruce Z. > > I am having thoughts of building leaning racks against the out side walls to > store the wood on end similar to what I see at lumber stores. A lot of floor > space would be saved with this method. > > Is leaning/standing the boards on end a method of storage that does not > encourage warping and twisting over time? > Mark |
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256612 | Buz Buskirk <buz.buskirk@g...> | 2015‑10‑11 | Re: space saving board storage |
You want to make sure that the racks limit any sideways slippage or forward tippage of the lumber. Dodging and running from an avalanche of 100s bd-ft of lumber is not fun. Once it starts, you can't stop it. Speaking from the experience of the one chance I took with vertically stacked plywood (about 8ish sheets of 1/2", IIRC). Luckily, no one was hurt. My young GIT shot out of the shop like a rabbit (whew!). It sheared the corner off of a plywood saw horse and some of the sheets pinned my leg against the bench-just a nasty scrape. I don't store lumber vertically: moulding would be one thing, but nothing with real mass. Buz On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 at 05:49:39 AM, Mark Jefferis wrote: > I have roughly 350 board feet of 3 quarter hard maple (8-10 ft lengths), 300 board feet of 3 quarter cherry (8 foot lengths) and 200 board feet of other stuff in varying lengths. The maple and cherry I purchased through a Craigs List ad and had been surfaced and thicknessed top and bottom and 1 side. > > To date, I have been storing the lumber as I use it in 3 stacks on bottom sticks which rest on epoxied concrete. I have not inserted sticks between the board layers. I live in an art loft that was built in 1916 as a boot factory. The floors and ceilings are 18 inches thick. The ceilings are 12 feet high. > > I am having thoughts of building leaning racks against the out side walls to store the wood on end similar to what I see at lumber stores. A lot of floor space would be saved with this method. > > Is leaning/standing the boards on end a method of storage that does not > encourage warping and twisting over time? > > Mark > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > http://old tools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > http://swingleydev.com/archi ve/faq.html > > OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/ot/">http://swingleydev.com/ot/ > > OldTools@s... > http://old tools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools -- Buz Buskirk Richmond, Kentucky The three hardest things to make in your shop are time, space and money. |
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256613 | John Leyden <leydenjl@g...> | 2015‑10‑11 | Re: space saving board storage |
Mark writes: I am having thoughts of building leaning racks against the out side walls to store the wood on end similar to what I see at lumber stores. A lot of floor space would be saved with this method. Is leaning/standing the boards on end a method of storage that does not encourage warping and twisting over time? Standing them perfectly flush/vertical against the wall is obviously too dangerous, and angling them towards the wall may not save as much floor space as one might wish. If you look at how the big box stores often stack their lumber, there are sticks angled towards the rear and boards laid flat on the floor below. But the floor footprint of the steel frame/rack holding both is identical. So all the other questions of safety and warpage notwithstanding, I fail to see how this method conserves floor space. Angled storage might appear to occupy less volume in the room than a traditional rectilinear lumber rack, and while that’s probably the only advantage I can see to doing it that way I don’t think it outweighs the advantages of storing boards horizontally. Let gravity be your friend when it comes to long term storage. JL |
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256619 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2015‑10‑11 | Re: space saving board storage |
I think the vertical storage at the big boxes is a compromise. Note that the framing lumber that is mostly just grab and go and stacked horizontally, but the “finished” lumber that they expert to be handled a lot is vertical. My “system” is horizontal at about 6’ and over to prevent warping, but shorter is vertical. Definitely could be better overall Ed Minch On Oct 11, 2015, at 8:50 AM, John Leyden |
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256620 | "Adam R. Maxwell" <amaxwell@m...> | 2015‑10‑11 | Re: space saving board storage |
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 15:06 , Ed Minch |
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256623 | Andy Barss <barss@u...> | 2015‑10‑11 | Re: space saving board storage |
I¹m in the midst of doing this in my shop. I had been storing lumber in a shed, horizontally, on sets of those ultra heavy duty shelf supports that Woodcraft and Lee Valley sell: http:// www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32145&cat=1,43326 What I have done is to move the shelf supports and standards to a wall in my shop proper, creating bays that are 32² wide (one shelf standard for every other 2x6 in the wall). I have the shelf supports protruding out, with the lumber stacked vertically in between them. To make them extra secure, I drilled holes in the ends of each shelf support, and bolted a heavy eyebolt through the hole. I will have steel cable (or heavy rope) going through the eyebolts, outside the lumber, so if the boards in one bay decide to fall they¹ll get caught by the cable. (I also plan to put wedges in to keep the shelf supports from coming up and off the standards when moving lumber around, probably unnecessary but easy to do). I think a fundamental advantage of vertical storage is the ease with which you can sort through a bunch of boards by moving them a bit to one side. With horizontal storage, you need to unpile them to do this. As long as they¹re close to vertical, I¹m not worried about warpage. Andy Barss On 10/11/15, 3:46 PM, "Adam R. Maxwell" |
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