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254102 | "John M Johnston (jmjhnstn)" <jmjhnstn@m...> | 2015‑03‑26 | Re: shellac shocker and questions |
I have used Zinser Amber Shellac from the Borg with great success. I was told it was about a 3 pound cut from the can, and I mix it two parts denatured alcohol to one part shellac. I use and multiple coats. This is my go to finish. I have some ruby flakes that I've been itching to try on walnut, and am working on and off (in between building rude garage storage shelves for the LSU) on a walnut base for an 18th century trophy drum table that is a prime candidate. When stored in cool dry conditions, how long will flakes last? And, in a related question, anyone used seedlac on a project? I've been following the Colonial Williamsburg Hay Shop build of two reproductions of Washington's field bed that are finished with seedlac. In Don Williams recent historical finishes DVD (Excellent!) he also talks about seedlac. Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an ongoing project, John John M. Johnston "P.S. If you do not receive this, of course it must have been miscarried; therefore I beg you to write and let me know." - Sir Boyle Roche, M.P. -----Original Message----- From: OldTools [mailto:oldtools- bounces@s...] On Behalf Of scott grandstaff Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:33 PM To: porch Subject: Re: [OldTools] shellac shocker I see that Zinsser (the pre-mixed shellac people) is now owned by Rustoleum. I see their clear and amber shellac in my local hardware store for about $14 a quart. I think it's a 4-lb cut. |
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254104 | Ed Minch <ruby@m...> | 2015‑03‑26 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
> John M. Johnston > Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an ongoing project, > Anybody want to show a quick shot of their bench? Sort of like a come-as-you- are party. I’ll kick it off: htt ps://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/16938187682/in/photostream/ 2 shots - a guitar fretboard in the works out of quarter sawn cherry, an oak body in the mold, some gold leaf samples for bling, and even a bottle of shellac Ed Minch |
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254105 | William Ghio <bghio@m...> | 2015‑03‑26 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Ed Minch wrote: > >> John M. Johnston >> Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an ongoing project, >> > > Anybody want to show a quick shot of their bench? Sort of like a come-as-you- are party. > > I’ll kick it off: > > h ttps://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/16938187682/in/photostream/ > > 2 shots - a guitar fretboard in the works out of quarter sawn cherry, an oak body in the mold, some gold leaf samples for bling, and even a bottle of shellac I'll play. One of a pair of nesting tables. Cherry w/ Sycamore burl for bling. https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../16751892468/in/set-72157649 257982803">https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../16751892468/in/set-721576 49257982803 Bill |
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254107 | "John M Johnston (jmjhnstn)" <jmjhnstn@m...> | 2015‑03‑26 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
Ed, I had been thinking that very thing a couple of days ago! Here we are, visible projects include: cutting coin slots in the top of plastic containers so the grandtwins can put coins in; a dovetailed pine reinforcing band around the top of a 32 year old wooden ice chest (my very first dovetail project); rude shelves in the garage; and the rest of the stuff is crap that needs a place to be. http://galootcentral.com/component/option,com_copperminevis/Itemid,2/pl ace,displayimage/album,lastup/cat,0/pos,0/">http://galootcentral.com/component/o ption,com_copperminevis/Itemid,2/place,displayimage/album,lastup/cat,0/pos,0/ or http://tinyurl.com/kowj26f John M. Johnston "P.S. If you do not receive this, of course it must have been miscarried; therefore I beg you to write and let me know." - Sir Boyle Roche, M.P. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Minch [mailto:ruby@m...] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:04 PM To: John M Johnston (jmjhnstn) Cc: porch Subject: Re: Shellac shocker and questions > John M. Johnston > Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an ongoing project, > Anybody want to show a quick shot of their bench? Sort of like a come-as-you- are party. I'll kick it off: |
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254110 | Darrell & Kathy <larchmont@s...> | 2015‑03‑26 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
On 26/03/2015 5:03 PM, Ed Minch wrote: > >> John M. Johnston Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an >> ongoing project, > > Anybody want to show a quick shot of their bench? Sort of like a > come-as-you-are party. > > I’ll kick it off: Well, here's my bench tonight. Most of that mess is not mine, it belongs to SWMBO. My work-in-progress is stacked in a corner, waiting for her to finish. http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/messybench .jpg">http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/messybench.jp g -- Darrell LaRue Oakville ON Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User |
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254111 | Dwight Beebe <dwb1124@g...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
Oooh, John. It looks like your spokeshaves have been breeding unnoticed. There appear to be about 21 shaves oh so nicely arranged along the rack. I'd leave the lights on more. I think I'd better check my shop, too. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:48 PM, John M Johnston (jmjhnstn) < jmjhnstn@m...> wrote: > Ed, I had been thinking that very thing a couple of days ago! > > Here we are, visible projects include: cutting coin slots in the top of > plastic containers so the grandtwins can put coins in; a dovetailed pine > reinforcing band around the top of a 32 year old wooden ice chest (my very > first dovetail project); rude shelves in the garage; and the rest of the > stuff is crap that needs a place to be. > > > http://galootcentral.com/component/option,com_copperminevis/Itemid,2/ place,displayimage/album,lastup/cat,0/pos,0/">http://galootcentral.com/component /option,com_copperminevis/Itemid,2/place,displayimage/album,lastup/cat,0/pos,0/< /a> > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/kowj26f > > > > John M. Johnston > "P.S. If you do not receive this, of course it must have been miscarried; > therefore I beg you to write and let me know." - Sir Boyle Roche, M.P. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Minch [mailto:ruby@m...] > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:04 PM > To: John M Johnston (jmjhnstn) > Cc: porch > Subject: Re: Shellac shocker and questions > > > > John M. Johnston > > Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an ongoing project, > > > > Anybody want to show a quick shot of their bench? Sort of like a > come-as-you-are party. > > I'll kick it off: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > http://old tools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > http://swingleydev.com/archi ve/faq.html > > OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/ot/">http://swingleydev.com/ot/ > > OldTools@s... > http://old tools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > |
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254112 | Anthony Seo <tonyseo@p...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
On 3/26/2015 7:59 PM, Darrell & Kathy wrote: > On 26/03/2015 5:03 PM, Ed Minch wrote: >> > >> John M. Johnston Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an > >> ongoing project, > > > > Anybody want to show a quick shot of their bench? Sort of like a > > come-as-you-are party. Well here is mine.... And while it may look like a disaster zone, I've been slowly clearing it. When I started the debris field was a good 12" high over more of the bench and I had a spot about 18" long and 6" wide clear at the edge around the center.... Found a few goodies lurking there as well... http: //oldetoolshop.com/jointer/benchpics/workbench03262015a.jpg Tony (where the rain is coming down...) -- Facebook https://www.facebook.com/tonyseo music Old River Hard Goods http://oldetoolshop.com/ |
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254113 | Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
I feel better now, but I still think mine looks like Tony's used to before he cleaned it up. Phil |
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254114 | Darrell & Kathy <larchmont@s...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
On 26/03/2015 8:43 PM, Dwight Beebe wrote: > Oooh, John. It looks like your spokeshaves have been breeding unnoticed. > There appear to be about 21 shaves oh so nicely arranged along the rack. > I'd leave the lights on more. > Dwight, I think you're seeing my bench there, with the Rack-O-Shaves behind it. I suspect John's link was 'latest upload' instead of a direct link. And you better count those shaves again, the Stanley #64's on the right half of the rack are doubled up. They're an, um, weakness of mine |
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254115 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
Well, I'm pretty sure that I have the happiest workbench. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/ 30063 Doc John Holladay 205-229-8484 docholladay0820@g... |
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254116 | David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
>From: Ed Minch >> John M. Johnston >> Here's hoping your workbench is cluttered with an ongoing project, >Anybody want to show a quick shot of their bench? Sort of like a come-as-you- are party. https://www.facebook.com/252222441610151/photos/pcb.440513909447669/440 513656114361/?type=1">https://www.facebook.com/252222441610151/photos/pcb.440513 909447669/440513656114361/?type=1 or http://tinyurl.com/otfewy3 |
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254117 | Michael Blair <branson2@s...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
> They're an, um, weakness of mine |
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254118 | Gary Caron <caronfamily1@g...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
OK here's my bench, needs a bit of spring cleaning, htt ps://www.dropbox.com/s/riwsdg2ofinu74r/20150327_061931.jpg?dl=0 and here's the grand gits bench (when he's in town), ditto the cleaning, htt ps://www.dropbox.com/s/6wg8jhmx330l74r/20150327_062034.jpg?dl=0 mahogany clock case in process, and partially completed pine model. Gary Caron York PA On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Michael Blair |
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254122 | Ed Minch <ruby@m...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
Doc That shot of the GIT-bench reminded of the one in my shop. It is a “Community Playthings” bench I got at a local auction for $10 complete with vice - and I got it right when I was considering what vice to buy for the GIT bench I was about to build! My 5 yr old grandson likes any tools that are small, so he has all of my small hammers, screwdrivers, pliers, etc, as well as a tool belt that matches mine. One question? How do you keep a GIT supplied with small drill bits to fit the eggbeater when they break one every 4th hole?? https://www.flickr .com/photos/ruby1638/16920051536/ Ed Minch |
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254123 | Michael Blair <branson2@s...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
> How do you keep a GIT supplied with small drill bits to fit the > eggbeater when they break one every 4th hole?? Harbor Freight bit sets, especially when on sale. Mike in Sacto |
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254125 | galoot@l... | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
Quoting Michael Blair |
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254126 | Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Ed Minch wrote: > How do you keep a GIT supplied with small drill bits to fit the eggbeater > when they break one every 4th hole?? Using the stubby drill bits help. Also, buying tool boxes full of crap isn't a bad idea, as you get lots of mismatched drill bits cheap. Just look at all the oddball sizes in this pic. http://kirkhmb.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Woodworking-Tools/2707230_9kxLdx #!i=3942996774&k=39JNPm6">http://kirkhmb.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Woodworking- Tools/2707230_9kxLdx#!i=3942996774&k=39JNPm6 And as someone else said keep the bigger than 1/8". And don't give them the fluted ones, those things are gold. -- Kirk Eppler in HMB, running between meetings. |
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254127 | John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
GG's: Did anyone else chuckle when they read this from Kirk? > > Using the stubby drill bits help. Also, buying tool boxes full of crap > isn't a bad idea, as you get lots of mismatched drill bits cheap. > Fantasy: "It's perfectly all right to buy this box full of crap. I'll divide it into three piles, Keep, Sell, and Trash. Prolly get back most of the purchase price selling the stuff I don't want." Reality: If you are lucky, you will actually trash the trash. The in-need-of- restoration box and the rest of the tools will hang around your shop until it becomes part of your estate! I learned long ago, right here on this Porch, that the best way to get a good price on the contents of a box of tools is to offer to buy the whole box. Works just about every time, but especially at pack-up time at a Flea Market. John Ruth |
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254128 | "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq" <rohrabacher@e...> | 2015‑03‑27 | Re: shellac shocker and questions |
On 3/26/2015 4:42 PM, John M Johnston (jmjhnstn) wrote: > When stored in cool dry conditions, how long will flakes last? How long you got? At least a thousand times that. > > > And, in a related question, anyone used seedlac on a project? Isn't seedlac just shellac in a form they call seed? You know there's buttons flakes and seeds? |
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254129 | Darrell & Kathy <larchmont@s...> | 2015‑03‑28 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
On 27/03/2015 10:55 AM, Ed Minch wrote: > How do you keep a GIT supplied with small drill bits to fit > the eggbeater when they break one every 4th hole?? A part box of finishing nails from a yard sale is like 10 cents. Clip the heads off and you got 'good enough' drill bits by the fistful. For the really keen drillers, a file will sharpen the business end in about 4 seconds. Just file the flats so the arises are sharp. -- Darrell LaRue Oakville ON Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User |
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254130 | Thomas Conroy | 2015‑03‑28 | Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
Phil Schempf wrote: "I feel better now, but I still think mine looks like Tony's used to before he cleaned it up." What he said. Only I have two main benches, woodwork and bookbinding, and they are both like Tony's used to be. Usually I manage to keep just enough free space to work on one or the other, and the clutter flows back and forth like unsecured cargo in the hold of a ship. But I was sick in Feb. so things drifted in, and I haven't been able to excavate down to bedrock yet. I'm reduced to working on a Workmate on the porch. It's lucky we don't get eight-foot snowdrifts out here. Tom Conroy |
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254131 | Michael Blair <branson2@s...> | 2015‑03‑28 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
> A part box of finishing nails from a yard sale is like 10 cents. > Clip the heads off and you got 'good enough' drill bits by the > fistful. Duh! Why didn't I remember that? My grandfather taught me about Using headless finish nails decades ago. Used the idea many more times than can be counted. And filing the flats on the tip of the nail? Now it's a sort of mini-birdcage awl. Mike in Sacto |
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254132 | Ed Minch <ruby@m...> | 2015‑03‑28 | Re: Fwd: Re: Shellac shocker and questions |
And to think I have used that trick myself - DUH Ed Minch On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:12 PM, Darrell & Kathy |
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