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250670 Tony Blanks <dynnyrne@i...> 2014‑09‑29 Re: Apple Wood
G'day Gary,

Long answer I'm afraid, because the answer isn't entirely simple or 
capable of being condensed to one sentence.  Probably those not 
interested in apple-growing should leave now.

I can't say with respect to the strength, durability etc of the new 
varieties, but on the basis of my Ag Science degree, living in what was 
once "The Apple Isle" , and using scavenged apple and pear wood there 
are a few things I can say.

First of all, every apple will be of the species /Malus domestica/, so 
the physical properties of the wood will show some variation between 
trees and perhaps varieties, just as there will be natural variation 
between individual trees in a stand of Douglas fir.  But all the working 
characteristics will be much the same.  The way in which the tree has 
been grown, trained, pruned and forced to shape will have much more 
effect on any subsequent use of the wood.

No apple-grower in Tasmania has used seedling trees, ie tops growing on 
their own roots within living memory.  All have been cloned tops, 
cuttings from an example of a known variety grafted onto a seedling or 
onto a struck rootstock.  I have seen a few huge open grown apple trees 
in the UK, mainly cider varieties which pretty much look after 
themselves.  I have never seen such a tree in Tasmania, nor in Australia 
more generally

Here old varieties of apples and pears were grown on heavy clay ground 
because that helped to keep down the size of the tree in the days when 
they were open-grown, ie shaped like a vase or goblet and not grown as 
hedges on trellis systems.  The rootstock used was one known to cope 
with such conditions, the top grafted to the stock was the desired 
apple: red or Golden Delicious, Lady in the Snow etc. In the early 
1900s  a series of dwarfing rootstocks were developed in the UK at the 
East Malling Horticultural Research Station, later cooperating with the 
Merton Research Station.  If you know a commercial grower of apple stock 
(as opposed to apples) he or she will almost certainly know of the "M" 
(Malling) or "MM" (Malling-Merton) series of rootstocks.  Some are still 
used, others have fallen out of use, replaced by newer rootstock 
selections.   See http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malling_series, or
http://en.wikipedi
a.org/wiki/Fruit_tree_propagation  (Scan down to
"Rootstocks").

So, an apple tree can be "dwarf" because of its own genetic makeup, or 
because the rootstock that the fruit-bearing top has been grafted onto 
is suppressing the vigour of the top, or because the overall growth is 
being limited by the conditions in which it is being grown.

More and more the tendency is for production systems which increase the 
number of stems per unit area of land, restrict the height and width of 
individual trees, allow for mechanical pruning ("hedge systems") and 
even mechanical harvesting.  A young tree grows more good fruit per unit 
area of land and per unit weight of apple wood than does an old widely 
spreading tree.  So, once they are past the juvenile stage a young 
orchard planted at high density is more productive and cheaper to run 
than an old orchard using an  old cultural system.  Sweeping 
generalisation I know but good for almost all cases. In addition growers 
will cut trees right back and graft on cuttings from newer varieties if 
old varieties fall out of favour.

So, all in all the chances of finding pieces of clear strong apple wood 
suitable for saw handles or whatever, are diminishing.  When I drive 
through apple-growing areas I keep an eye out for old open grown 
orchards being pushed out to be replaced with new training systems and 
varieties, or increasingly commonly, replaced by cherry orchards.  
Sometimes I can get one or 2 foot butt sections for the asking and the 
gathering.  That is rare now but.

The other type of dwarf apples are the "mutants": breeders have been 
seeking out individual trees with very short internode lengths.  These 
are "natural dwarfs"  Again a tree with desirable fruit characteristics 
will be selected and cuttings from that individual grafted onto seedling 
rootstocks grown from the same variety.  This ensures that the grafted 
trees stay tiny, but all the fruit is identical because the fruiting 
part of the all the trees is genetically identical.  These are aimed at 
the patio and tub specimen market and with the short intenodes would be 
full of knots and twisted grain, assuming one ever survived t a size 
large enough to produce a billet large enough for a chisel handle.   You 
would never get a saw handle out of one of these trees.

And if you come from an orchard owning family, my apology for telling 
you stuff you already knew.

Regards,

Tony B
In Hobart where the 30 yo backyard apple hedge is just coming into flower.






On 29/09/2014 3:51 AM, Gary Katsanis wrote:
> Recently, over the last 20 years or so, there has been a major move 
> from standard apple trees to the dwarf varieties.
>
> Does anyone know if this affects the quality of the wood, or its 
> desirability for handles?
>
> Gary Katsanis
> Albion NY, USA

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