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89834 | Anthony Seo <tonyseo@m... | 2001‑02‑13 | Henry Boker |
Does anyone have any working dates or other info for Henry Boker. I know he was a German ironmonger, I have had a lot of pieces, iron braces, bits, calipers, etc by him. Guy on another list has a beautiful hanging scale and was asking from more info. Thanks Tony |
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89835 | Louis Michaud <louis_michaud@u... | 2001‑02‑13 | Re: Henry Boker |
Tony wrote: > info for Henry Boker... German ironmonger... Can only add that his elaborately decorated plier type saw sets are common in Quebec. I also have a few simple saw wrest with his mark and a couple of hand pruners. Yup, any info would be appreciated. Best, Louis Michaud |
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89836 | reeinelson@w... (Robert Nelson) | 2001‑02‑13 | Re: Henry Boker |
Hi Tony & All, Tony asked for info on Henry Boker. Per the DAT, the Boker companies were in business 1837-1969. The names H. Boker, H.&R. Boker, and H. Boker & Co. were all used, but it's not clear which was used when. The H. is said, in various sources to stand for Henry, Herman, and Heinrich. My personal guess is that different Bokers ran the company at diferent times and all are right. As Tony said, they were primarily a German company, but the tools were imported and sold by a U.S. affiliate. In 1899, they acquired a U.S. company and started making some tools here. Best Wishes, Bob |
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89845 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s... | 2001‑02‑13 | Re: Henry Boker |
Boker was one of the great Solingen cutlery houses. Probably the greatest. I wouldn't be surprised to find the actual start date at something more like 1600. Their goods were exported worldwide and new companies were started and run in other locations under the Boker name as well. Boker was practically the Stanley of Germany acquiring scads of other companies and products along the way. I'm not sure if they actually went into garage door openers before the end, but it's likely. yours, Scott ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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89846 | Ghio Bill <bghio@t... | 2001‑02‑13 | RE: Henry Boker |
> Tony asked for info on Henry Boker. Per the DAT, the Boker companies > were in business 1837-1969. The names H. Boker, H.&R. Boker, and H. > Boker & Co. were all used, but it's not clear which was used when. The > H. is said, in various sources to stand for Henry, Herman, and Heinrich. > My personal guess is that different Bokers ran the company at diferent > times and all are right. As Tony said, they were primarily a German > company, but the tools were imported and sold by a U.S. affiliate. In > 1899, they acquired a U.S. company and started making some tools here. > I don't have my ref materials here, but Boker is still in business today in Germany. The only products I know for sure that they still make are knives - got one in my pocket right now that SWMBO gave me a few years ago. The US branch of the firm was sold off in -- I thought -- the 1980's, but I guess it was sooner than that. They also had -- dates unknown -- a branch of the company operating in Mexico. If desperate for details, find a copy of Bernard Levine's book on collectable knives for a history of the company. Bill |
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89841 | Anthony Seo <tonyseo@m... | 2001‑02‑13 | Re: Henry Boker |
At 01:55 PM 2/13/01 -0500, Robert Nelson wrote: >Hi Tony & All, > >Tony asked for info on Henry Boker. Per the DAT, the Boker companies >were in business 1837-1969. The names H. Boker, H.&R. Boker, and H. >Boker & Co. were all used, but it's not clear which was used when. The Thanks for the info Their dividers are pretty neat. The dividers were made out of one continuous piece of steel with the center section being flattened to act as a spring. Here is a pic of one. http://www.geocities.com/jointer.geo/toolpics/boker.jpg Tony |
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89847 | "Todd and Betty Hughes" <dedhorse@d... | 2001‑02‑13 | Re: Henry Boker |
Tony asked..." > Does anyone have any working dates or other info for Henry Boker. I know > he was a German ironmonger....." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Hermann Boker a recent emigrant from Germany founded Hermann Boker and co. in 1837 in New York City, soon moving it to Newark NJ,[though they retained a Sales office in NY] .Prior to this Hermann and his brother Robert had in 1829 started a plant to make swords in Remsschied Germany. When they crossed the Atlantic Robert went to Canada and later in 1865 he went to Mexico and opened a branch of H. Boker&co there called Casa Roberto Boker,[still in business].In 1869 Hermann cousin Heinrich Boeker opened a factory in Solingen to manufacture items for his cousins in America and Mexico. H.Boker also imported from England. In 1899 in response to rising tariffs on imported goods they started a factory in Newark called Valley Forge cutlery co. where they made both knives and tools.In 1921 this plant was sold and operations moved to Maple wood NJ . In 1969 Boker was bought out by Wiss, [the scissor people].In 1978 Wiss sold the Boker name to the Cooper Tool group of NC. In 1986 Cooper sold name and all distribution rights to the Heinrich Boker co. of Solingen Germany. Henry Boker? I don't think there was a Henry Boker, Heinrich Boeker did mark some items exported to Australia,[maybe the USA too?] marked Henry Boker probably to make them sound less foreign..............I used to sort of collect Boker Knives by the way and found most of this information in knife books....Todd |
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89857 | Marvin Paisner <paisners@n... | 2001‑02‑13 | Re: Henry Boker |
Galoots, Some history of the Boker works can be found at the following link. Clock on the _Treetimes_ blade. http://www.bokerusa.com/ Marvin Paisner Kooenay Lake, BC |
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89859 | holloway@n... | 2001‑02‑13 | RE: Henry Boker |
At 5:16 PM -0500 2/13/01, Ghio Bill wrote: >...The only products I know for sure that they still make are knives - >got one in my pocket right now that SWMBO gave me a few years ago. Me too: "Tree Brand, Boker, Solingen Germany," with a little tree in the medallion rivet. A very high quality pocket knife, (*not* stainless steel) even if a little spendy. In fact, you can order one today from the Woodcraft catalog (p. 85 of the Feb. 2001 edition that arrived in the mail just today). A couple of years ago the 3-blade model was selling for $57 and change, and I see it's gone up to $64.95. Mine was also a gift, from someone who cared enough... Tom Holloway |
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89864 | paul womack <pwomack@e... | 2001‑02‑14 | Re: Henry Boker |
Anthony Seo wrote: > > At 01:55 PM 2/13/01 -0500, Robert Nelson wrote: > >Hi Tony & All, > > > >Tony asked for info on Henry Boker. Per the DAT, the Boker companies > >were in business 1837-1969. The names H. Boker, H.&R. Boker, and H. > >Boker & Co. were all used, but it's not clear which was used when. The > > Thanks for the info > > Their dividers are pretty neat. The dividers were made out of one > continuous piece of steel with the center section being flattened to act as > a spring. Here is a pic of one. > > http://www.geocities.com/jointer.geo/toolpics/boker.jpg Nice. I don't think the design is unique to them. And a local blacksmith make fireside tongs using the same idea - and he charges big bucks (ok "big pounds", but that doesn't sounds right at all) for them. The whole tool has to be made out of steel good enough for the spring section, and the spring section is thin, and must (hence) be heated/hammerred carefully. (comments, Todd?) BugBear |
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89897 | "Breitenberger, Eric" <Eric_Breitenberger@e... | 2001‑02‑14 | Re: Henry Boker |
GGs: Just some quick comments: 1) re: "Henry" Boker - "Henry" is simply the English translation of "Heinrich". 2) re: Boker, Boeker - the "o" in "Boker" should have an umlaut (two little dots) over it. When that isn't possible, "oe" is often used. 3) re: Tom's chisel - "Boker & Sohne" - note the "hn", not "nn". Both "o"s have an umlaut - this translates simply as "Boker and Sons". - Eric (in Fairbanks, Alaska, where I'm madly sending wood and tools to all points of the compass) |
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89904 | Eric Coyle <ecoyle@c... | 2001‑02‑14 | re: Henry Boker |
Boker also made a funky brace........ http://www.cadvision.com/Home_Pages/accounts/ecoyle/bokerunv.jpg and ya, my apologies for the size of the image..... Cowtown Eric |
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89893 | Steve Sullivan <steve.sullivan@a... | 2001‑02‑15 | Re: Henry Boker |
Todd wrote: > Henry Boker? I don't think there was a Henry Boker, Heinrich Boeker did > mark some items exported to Australia,[maybe the USA too?] marked Henry > Boker probably to make them sound less foreign.............. Certainly have a few tools marked Henry Boker here. They are all robust looking, well made and function well. From memory my stash includes: dividers, spring calipers, double ended calipers, fret saw and blades, tap and die sets, sockets and rachet drivers,... Anthony pointed us to: > http://www.geocities.com/jointer.geo/toolpics/boker.jpg Have a small pair of calipers of similar construction, but from memory, made by english company, possibly Moore & Wright. Regards, -- Steve Adelaide, Australia |
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