Galoots,

The first picture shows a few things I picked up at the Canton, TX flea 
a few months ago - including the Fernhurst screw driver in its box (you 
know that one, Jeff).  The item I have a question about is between the 
Fray & Pigg brace and the Fernhurst.  You can see it better in the 
second picture.  I don't remember seeing one of these before.  It works 
like a push drill or screw driver, but has a point like an awl.  It is 
10" long.

I am making two assumptions:  1) Since I don't know what it is, it must 
be a leather tool,  2) It is an early cordless awl used for making holes 
in leather.  Does anyone else have any others ideas?

BTW, it sure is nice to have GIC back.

http://tinyurl.com/yp527x
http://tinyurl.com/28d746

Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)

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Obviously, I haven't figured out the new GIC yet.  The links don't match 
what they are supposed to.  The first link is not to my album.  The 
second link is the Canton tools picture.  The close-up of the whatsit 
should be as follows, if it works this time.

http://tinyurl.com/3e5egk

Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Sronce" 
To: "OldTools" 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: Canton Whatsit

> Galoots,
>
> The first picture shows a few things I picked up at the Canton, TX 
> flea a few months ago - including the Fernhurst screw driver in its 
> box (you know that one, Jeff).  The item I have a question about is 
> between the Fray & Pigg brace and the Fernhurst.  You can see it 
> better in the second picture.  I don't remember seeing one of these 
> before.  It works like a push drill or screw driver, but has a point 
> like an awl.  It is 10" long.
>
> I am making two assumptions:  1) Since I don't know what it is, it 
> must be a leather tool,  2) It is an early cordless awl used for 
> making holes in leather.  Does anyone else have any others ideas?
>
> BTW, it sure is nice to have GIC back.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yp527x
> http://tinyurl.com/28d746
>
> Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)
>
> 

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On 10 Feb., Frank Sronce wrote:
> 
> The item I have a question about is between the 
> Fray & Pigg brace and the Fernhurst.  You can see it better in the 
> second picture.  I don't remember seeing one of these before.  It works 
> like a push drill or screw driver, but has a point like an awl.  It is 
> 10" long.

I'm afraid I don't know what this is, but I have a question.  It
looks like the spiral action on this driver is created by a spiral-shaped
bead or tongue on the shaft (rather than a spiral groove a la Yankee).
I know I've not seen one like this before.  How's the spiral attached
to the shaft?  I'm wondering if it just wraps around and is fastened
at the ends, or if it's solidly attached to the shaft all along its
length.

Thanks,

Norm in Fort Collins
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Norm,

I won't guarantee it, but as near as I can tell, it appears to be 
solidly attached all the way.

Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Norm Wood" 
To: "OldTools" 
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Canton Whatsit

> On 10 Feb., Frank Sronce wrote:
>>
>> The item I have a question about is between the
>> Fray & Pigg brace and the Fernhurst.  You can see it better in the
>> second picture.  I don't remember seeing one of these before.  It 
>> works
>> like a push drill or screw driver, but has a point like an awl.  It 
>> is
>> 10" long.
>
> I'm afraid I don't know what this is, but I have a question.  It
> looks like the spiral action on this driver is created by a 
> spiral-shaped
> bead or tongue on the shaft (rather than a spiral groove a la Yankee).
> I know I've not seen one like this before.  How's the spiral attached
> to the shaft?  I'm wondering if it just wraps around and is fastened
> at the ends, or if it's solidly attached to the shaft all along its
> length.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Norm in Fort Collins 

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I tried these tiny urls today, and got sent somewhere unexpected.

One pointed to a Peter Robinson photo, and the other to some citern  
makers close up of of some fancy carving work.

I'm wondering if photo ids on this new GIC can change thus making  
tinyurls unworkable?

--Scott

On Feb 10, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Frank Sronce wrote:

> Galoots,
>
> The first picture shows a few things I picked up at the Canton, TX  
> flea a few months ago - including the Fernhurst screw driver in its  
> box (you know that one, Jeff).  The item I have a question about is  
> between the Fray & Pigg brace and the Fernhurst.  You can see it  
> better in the second picture.  I don't remember seeing one of these  
> before.  It works like a push drill or screw driver, but has a  
> point like an awl.  It is 10" long.
>
> I am making two assumptions:  1) Since I don't know what it is, it  
> must be a leather tool,  2) It is an early cordless awl used for  
> making holes in leather.  Does anyone else have any others ideas?
>
> BTW, it sure is nice to have GIC back.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yp527x
> http://tinyurl.com/28d746
>
> Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)
>
>
>
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Scott Stager
Columbia Missouri

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Galoots,

Jim Erdman solved the riddle.  It is a Vesco tool.  He even found one 
on -bay.
http://tinyurl.com/2hws3m

Using the patent number Jim gave me (2377462), I found this patent which 
says it was to be a burring tool.  I took a closer look and found "Wesco 
Co. - Licensed by Murray" on mine.  The patent says it is a burring 
tool, and shows it with a short burring bit in the patent drawing.  Mine 
obviously is set up to bore rather than burr, and the one on ebay 
doesn't have anything in the chuck.  Until I am proved wrong, I will 
continue to consider it (in my configuration) to be a leather working 
tool - like a powered awl.
http://tinyurl.com/yp67yw

Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)

 

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Scott,

I'm afraid you may be correct.  I guess I will have to stop using Tiny 
URLs for GIC images.  I hate to do that because the long URLs are so 
totally unmanageable.

Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Stager" 
To: "Listserv Oldtools" 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Canton Whatsit

>I tried these tiny urls today, and got sent somewhere unexpected.
>
> One pointed to a Peter Robinson photo, and the other to some citern 
> makers close up of of some fancy carving work.
>
> I'm wondering if photo ids on this new GIC can change thus making 
> tinyurls unworkable?
>
> --Scott
>
> On Feb 10, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Frank Sronce wrote:
>
>> Galoots,
>>
>> The first picture shows a few things I picked up at the Canton, TX 
>> flea a few months ago - including the Fernhurst screw driver in its 
>> box (you know that one, Jeff).  The item I have a question about is 
>> between the Fray & Pigg brace and the Fernhurst.  You can see it 
>> better in the second picture.  I don't remember seeing one of these 
>> before.  It works like a push drill or screw driver, but has a  point 
>> like an awl.  It is 10" long.
>>
>> I am making two assumptions:  1) Since I don't know what it is, it 
>> must be a leather tool,  2) It is an early cordless awl used for 
>> making holes in leather.  Does anyone else have any others ideas?
>>
>> BTW, it sure is nice to have GIC back.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yp527x
>> http://tinyurl.com/28d746
>>
>> Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)
>> 

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