GGs,
I have a couple of questions for users and collectors alike about a saw
that I just bought. First a description. The saw is a skew back, 22 in hand
saw, 11 ppi filed rip, marked 11 on the blade. The handle appears to be
apple and is attached with 4 steel nuts. The raised medallion reads "Royal
Steel" in the center and "Supplee hardware Co Phila" around the edge. The
blade is etched with a soaring eagle flanked by 2 flags. Above the eagle
"THE GENUINE AND ORIGINAL" and below " ROYAL STEEL" then "SPRING STEEL
WARRENTED" then "Patent Temper Patent Ground". Right of all of that is "
This saw is made specially for use of the most skilled artisan. For quality
style and finish it cannot be surpassed. Fully guaranteed. William W
Supplee". That last bit sounds familiar doesn't it?
OK, so here are my questions.
1) When was this saw was made. The skew back makes it not earlier than mid
1880's. Can anyone tell me the dates for  Supplee Hardware? Also, did
Disston license the skew back to other saw makers or did they have to wait
for the patent to expire?
2) Who made it? Any guesses? Does royal steel provide any clues?
3) Who would want a 22 in, 11 ppi rip saw? Is there some trade that would
have found this useful?
Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Paul

Paul Bethke wrote:
> Paul wrote about a Supplee Hardware saw. I am also interested in the
feedback. I will offer a comment  and that is a reference was made to an eleven
point ripsaw. Based on my experience  a ripsaw of 6or less teeth per inch
normally 5 - 5 1/2 is used for ripping.A 7or an 8 point  generally referred to
as crosscut saws but could be used to rip if other saws were not available
(added effort required).  A 9 point and up were usually reserved for crosscut
work. A cabinetmaker or anyone doing fine work would value the 10-12 point saws
.
  Again this is my experience. I would not want to rip a 10 foot piece
of hard yellow pine three times to get rails for a raised panel,and I
would use a 5 point if my life was resting on completion of the job. I
wouldn't envy someone trying it with a 10 point unless they were able to
come up with some sort of nonstandard set.

   Gayle Turner

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>Paul Bethke wrote:
...11 pte rip saw...

That's what I use (10 pte) to rip thin, 3/8 to 5/8 in, hardwood
panels to width. I find there is Less tear-out under and that the
edge is less jagged, one or two passes with a plane and it's ready.
With thin material and more teeth in the wood, the speed is the
same as thick with less pointes.

I'm not an expert but it works very well. Sometimes (a few times...)
not knowing that your not supposed to do it that way is an
advantage...

Louis

Paul Bethke asks about a 11 point rip saw:

>3) Who would want a 22 in, 11 ppi rip saw? Is there some trade that
would
>have found this useful?

Just a thought, but there are those who cut tenons with a rip saw
rather than a rip cut backsaw (tenon saw). Is it possible that this
relatively fine rip saw was aimed at those tradesmen?

Alan N. Graham