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65807 "D. Screen" <dscreen@h...> 1999‑07‑31 Groves and Sons Saw question
Can you tell me what the USE stands for on my newly acquired
R. Groves and Sons sash/tenon saw?
Thanks....

Don
Allen, TX
PS.. Who is still wondering why so many fellow galoots passed up this saw at
the SWTCA meet.
Guess most of those guys were well over 30 on the saw count...I am only up
to 8 or so.


65824 Eric Coyle <ecoyle@c...> 1999‑08‑01 re: Groves and Sons Saw question
Don was wondering.......

Can you tell me what the USE stands for on my newly acquired
R. Groves and Sons sash/tenon saw?
Thanks....

Don
Allen, Tx
*************************

I just knew I could answer at least one query today.....

Robert Groves entered into business with this sons after a falling out with
his evil twin, Donald Terwilliger. Being of a somewhat sarcastic nature and
bent, Rob  couldn't resist a  play on words in his touchmark. His brother
Don, you see,  would have had to put DON T. USE on his saws in order to
keep his status in the marketplace.

And that is the gospel truth.....

Eric
in Cowtown


65827 "Brent D. Beach" <ub359@v...> 1999‑08‑01 Re: Groves and Sons Saw question
On Sat, 31 Jul, "D. Screen" wrote:
>Can you tell me what the USE stands for on my newly acquired
>R. Groves and Sons sash/tenon saw?

Have no idea, but while looking at stuff on Groves in a recent
thread noticed

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:57:06 -0400
From: Erik von Sneidern 
>>"R. GROVES & SONS"  "SHEFFIELD"
>>
>>      "CAST  STEEL"
>>"ELASTIC S??????  TEMPER"  
>>      "WARRANTED"
>
>"SPRING"

So, the middle line says

 ELASTIC SPRING TEMPER

Which seems to imply that the SPRING is added to steel during
tempering, as opposed to indicating that the steel has a
different composiiton.

Is this a valid inference?

Brent

Brent Beach, Victoria, BC, CA


65833 "Erik von Sneidern" <enrico@a...> 1999‑08‑01 Re: Groves and Sons Saw question
Howdy,

I came to the word "spring" because it's a pretty common
descriptor on saws.  Spring steel was different for the
higher carbon (about 1%-1.5%) content and other elements and
compounds in the alloy.  It could be tempered to a good hardness
for tools while having a quality of elasticity (as opposed to brittleness).
This grade of steel was good for carriage springs, hence the
name, and top-grade handsaws.

The letters USE mean don't let it hang on the wall of a Cracker Barrel
restaurant.  ; )

snip from Brent Beach:

>On Sat, 31 Jul, "D. Screen" wrote:
>>Can you tell me what the USE stands for on my newly acquired
>>R. Groves and Sons sash/tenon saw?
>
>
>Which seems to imply that the SPRING is added to steel during
>tempering, as opposed to indicating that the steel has a
>different composiiton.
>
>Is this a valid inference?



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