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276876 Curt Seeliger <seeligerc@g...> 2023‑01‑08 So when did Scott meet Scott?
Happy Camper wrote:
> The Workbench book was 40 years ago, to me. That's
> when it was being written and I met Landis.
So wait a minute, wait a minute here. You can't just drop a phrase like
that and leave it, I don't care whose birthday it is. We have pictures, so
it did happen, but tell us how! How did you turn up in his book? How'd he
find you, what was going through your head and the rest of your life during
this?
276877 scottg <scottg@s...> 2023‑01‑09 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
The Workbench book was 40 years ago, to me. That's
when it was being written and I met Landis.
> So wait a minute, wait a minute here. You can't just drop a phrase like
> that and leave it, I don't care whose birthday it is. We have pictures, so
> it did happen, but tell us how!
OK I know I have told the story before, but here goes.
  Around about 78 I had a thought. How come nobody ever combined a 
sawhorse, workbench and toolbox into one?
   The capability (vise n dogs) of a workbench in smaller scale and all 
you need is another regular sawhorse to go with?
    At the time I was doing light construction and furniture refinishing 
work  in my little town, and I needed something to take on the road.

  One day I made a crude drawing and sent it to Fine Woodworking shop 
tips.  They got someone who could actually draw to redo it, and put it 
in right away.
   Then later they made a Shop fixtures book (or some such title)
And after that a "best of" book. They put the sawbench in all of them.

   Several years went by and one day I got a call from Scott Landis. He 
was doing a book and would I let him include me?
Wull sure, I sez.
  He was doing a tour (Landis took most if not all of the pictures in 
the book)
and where did I live? So I gave him directions and we set a date.
   The morning before the agreed date, I was at the end of the valley 
digging in a pre-1900 dump for old bottles, when I heard 2 quick shots.
  2 shots was the family signal for get your ass home! (Cell phones 
were  years away.)
I jumped on my bicycle and screamed off.

  It was Landis a day early. It turned out one of his other authors 
wasn't so much fun to be around, so he took a chance I might be home.

   We had a great day!! With so much in common and my shop full of stuff 
to play with (even then I was messing around with custom and restored 
tools)  and good food and endless laughter, we just made a day of it.

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/sawhorse6.jpg
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/sawhorse7.jpg
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/sawhorse3.jpg
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/sawhorse4.jpg

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/sawhorse2.jpg

http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/sawhorses.htm
   yours scott
276878 Curt Seeliger <seeligerc@g...> 2023‑01‑09 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
> OK I know I have told the story before, but here goes....
Those are not light weight sawbenches - not even before you hung your
hammers and axes on that one.
So that's how he found out he needed to toodle around through the southern
Cascades and just maybe a bit of the Klamath Knot. But more of your work
showed up in the book. I remember a lion-headed shave bench, and maybe
something sized for your granddaughter as well? And your pix since then
suggest he was just scratching the surface. How did he decide what to
include? I don't think you've ever told us that part...
276881 Paul Gardner <yoyopg@g...> 2023‑01‑09 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
Two shots!  That's a hoot!  My mum would blow a ref whistle out the back
window when it was time to come in.  That was in suburban Los Angeles in
the late 70s and early 80s and could be heard within a two block radius.
Out in Happy Camp, in BigFoot country, two shots probably carried a lot
further.  No mention of what caliber the family homing beacon was loaded
with. Pity.  I'm just left wondering how far a  lonesome tractor steam
whistle can travel in most parts.

Paul, in SF
276886 scottg <scottg@s...> 2023‑01‑09 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
Quesions I got questions!!
Mornin' folks

  The horse is 8" deep. 12 would be unwieldy.
The heavy stationary sawbench is 12" deep and you are not carrying it 
anywhere. hahaha
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/sawhorse1.jpg

With the removable tool tote on top, plus the well underneath it, there 
is plenty of room for long tools in the portable horse.
  Yes its heavy (but I didn't load it up like its loaded now with every 
single drawer stuffed tight hahhaah)
But with the gap between the tote and the top I can slip my forearms in, 
and lift with my legs easily.
I was aiming for a station wagon tailgate, not a 1 ton 4wd monster truck 
bed.
     I didn't travel with the second horse loaded up with hammers and 
axes either, btw.  haahahah

   The three legs were a nod to stability out in a driveway, but also 
because I mostly work with my elbows in close to my body. Working close 
to the bench meant splayed legs at 4 corners would be a tripping 
hazard.  2 legs splayed and one straight worked fine.

   The alarm signal was provided by a Smith and Wesson 36, Chief's 
model. 38 special and a 2" long tube means its loud enough to make 
everyone sorry when it goes off.  haahaahah

   This was all a long time ago. I had many tools and appliances in my 
shop and Scott 'n me happily played like boys with toys all that day.
    At that time --very-- few were making and customizing tools at all.
The delight he clearly showed in work I'd done was pretty inspirational


Many things you have seen me post over the years were designed and made 
later though.

    Landis, being definitely one of us, was tolerated at Taunton but not 
especially celebrated.
  Taunton sells ad space for a living. That's what a magazine does.
So articles on drawer pulls sell better with management, with a new 
Powermatic table saw clearly showing in the background, if you see what 
I mean.
   Stanley, Lee Valley and Lie Neilsen all take minimal ad space in FWW, 
but 4 page full color spreads are bought by the bigger profit generating 
outfits. The ones that go for 6 or $12,000 apiece sales.
   Its not mandatory to use sponsors products in every shot. But the 
more the better.

   The kind of tools I make and alter can be tolerated in print 
occasionally.  But they would be much more welcome with a brand new 
Laguna 26" spiral head planer showing and at least a few words praising 
it,................... and I don't got one.

Speaking of print, there is a new book just released on screwdrivers by 
Don Wilwol. It has one of my Perfect Handles on the cover. The book is 
also peppered with my work all the way though.
  At least I think so.  He is not sending me a copy. :(
   yours scott

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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
276887 Thomas Conroy 2023‑01‑09 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
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Paul wrote: "I'm just left wondering how far a lonesome tractor steam
whistle can travel in most parts."
 Before or after the tree growing through it is removed?
Tom Conroy[ducking and running]
276896 Thomas Conroy 2023‑01‑10 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
Scott wrote: "Speaking of print, there is a new book just released on
screwdrivers by Don Wilwol. It has one of my Perfect Handles on the cover. The
book is also peppered with my work all the way though. "At least I think so.  He
is not sending me a copy. :("
 

I looked this up on Amazon, and the section "From the Collection of Scott
Grandstaff" is sixteen pages long, of which fourteen pages are shown in the
"Look Inside" preview that Amazon provides. Around thirty of Scott's perfect-
handled tools are shown, at least I think they are all from Scott and not from
the other dozen near-galoots with sections to themselves (none of their
treasures are show by Amazon)..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BRD6BX5L?asin=B0BRD6BX5L&revisionId=&format=4&depth=
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Happy Birthday, Scott. My mental image of you is still the young guy in Landis'
photos, who I first encountered when I was even younger.
Tom ConroyBerkeley
276897 Kirk Eppler 2023‑01‑10 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
added to my Amazon wish list.  A way to give people an easy way to buy me
old tools.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 3:46 AM Thomas Conroy via groups.io  wrote:

> Scott wrote: "Speaking of print, there is a new book just released on
> screwdrivers by Don Wilwol. It has one of my Perfect Handles on the cover.
> The book is also peppered with my work all the way though. "At least I
> think so.  He is not sending me a copy. :("
>
>
> I looked this up on Amazon, and the section "From the Collection of Scott
> Grandstaff" is sixteen pages long, of which fourteen pages are shown in the
> "Look Inside" preview that Amazon provides. Around thirty of Scott's
> perfect-handled tools are shown, at least I think they are all from Scott
> and not from the other dozen near-galoots with sections to themselves (none
> of their treasures are show by Amazon)..
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BRD6BX5L?asin=B0BRD6BX5L&revisionId=&format=4&dept
h=1
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Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, CA 
276898 Troy Livingston <horologist@w...> 2023‑01‑11 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
Scott,

A belated Happy Birthday.

That is a really cool idea and if I ever get the time, I want to build
something similar.

Troy
276899 Troy Livingston <horologist@w...> 2023‑01‑11 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
Call me picky, even unreasonable. Yes, I may even be totally off base.
It has happened and will likely do so again.

Near as I can tell Scott wrote  sixteen of the seventy four pages of his
book. (The content appears to be lifted from Scott's web page.) Then
refuses to send Scott a copy?

Seems world class petty to me and this one will not find a home on my
library shelves.

Troy
276900 gary allan may 2023‑01‑11 Re: So when did Scott meet Scott?
It couldn't happen to a nicer guy. 
 Thomas Conroy wrote:
 
 
 'Scott wrote: "Speaking of print, there is a new book just released on
screwdrivers by Don Wilwol. It has one of my Perfect Handles on the cover. The
book is also peppered with my work all the way though. "At least I think so.  He
is not sending me a copy. :( " '
 

I looked this up on Amazon, and the section "From the Collection of Scott
Grandstaff" is sixteen pages long, of which fourteen pages are shown in the
"Look Inside" preview that Amazon provides. Around thirty of Scott's perfect-
handled tools are shown, at least I think they are all from Scott and not from
the other dozen near-galoots with sections to themselves (none of their
treasures are show by Amazon)..

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BRD6BX5L?asin=B0BRD6BX5L&revisionId=&format=4&depth=
1

Happy Birthday, Scott. My mental image of you is still the young guy in Landis'
photos, who I first encountered when I was even younger.


Tom Conroy Berkeley


 Gam sez:
    

   It couldn't happen to a nicer guy, Gentle Galoots. And Scott!  


              good luck Scott---we've all stolen so much from you, you should be
pretty 'used' to it...

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