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276075 scottg <scottg@s...> 2022‑08‑05 transitional jointer lot
Since its a buy it now and unlikely to sell anyway, I thought this was a 
highly interesting lot.
  Not just an assemblage of long transitional jointers, but in a very 
small coastal town near Santa Cruz Ca?
What are the odds?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185518166636?hash=item2b31be926c:g:vBcAAOSwFnVi5EMo

In other trivial news I saw where Martin must have got a stash of 
transitional jointers too, and is selling parts.

Is there something going on I don't know about?  haahahaahah

I have a theory that old tool prices are just about at the edge of a 
cliff and ready to topple down to near nothing.
  With all the young guys buying nothing but new tools and old guys 
popping off, leaving barns and sheds and shops full of old tools, and 
very few buyers.
(it seems I see another new listing about every day, and sometimes 2)
  I think we are on the brink of historic low prices for old tools.
  The common bench planes are holding up so far. (if they have been 
polished)
But the truly rare and valuable are down 50% on many tools.
I was able to assemble a big stash of pattern maker paring chisels for 
dramatically less than stubby little new chisels.
I am expecting saws to go back to 2 dollars at any minute.

   Could be the time of our lives coming up!!
     yours scott

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276076 Kirk Eppler 2022‑08‑05 Re: transitional jointer lot
Well heck, I never knew they were so close to us.  Actually closer to
Monterey than Santa Cruz.

I have visited their website many times.

At first view, I thought they had bought a local guy's stash, but didn't
seem deep enough.  He previously supplied a boatload of transitionals to
Stanley for the 150 celebration.

Kirk in Half Moon Bay, CA, cleaning up crap in the garage for a few minutes
over lunch.



On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 1:34 PM scottg  wrote:

> Since its a buy it now and unlikely to sell anyway, I thought this was a
> highly interesting lot.
>   Not just an assemblage of long transitional jointers, but in a very
> small coastal town near Santa Cruz Ca?
> What are the odds?
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185518166636?hash=item2b31be926c:g:vBcAAOSwFnVi5EMo
>
> In other trivial news I saw where Martin must have got a stash of
> transitional jointers too, and is selling parts.
>
> Is there something going on I don't know about?  haahahaahah
>
> I have a theory that old tool prices are just about at the edge of a
> cliff and ready to topple down to near nothing.
>   With all the young guys buying nothing but new tools and old guys
> popping off, leaving barns and sheds and shops full of old tools, and
> very few buyers.
> (it seems I see another new listing about every day, and sometimes 2)
>   I think we are on the brink of historic low prices for old tools.
>   The common bench planes are holding up so far. (if they have been
> polished)
> But the truly rare and valuable are down 50% on many tools.
> I was able to assemble a big stash of pattern maker paring chisels for
> dramatically less than stubby little new chisels.
> I am expecting saws to go back to 2 dollars at any minute.
>
>    Could be the time of our lives coming up!!
>
>


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Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, CA 
276079 Mark van Roojen <mvr1@e...> 2022‑08‑06 Re: transitional jointer lot
Scott predicts that old tool prices will crater because of lower demand and
increased supply. I'm sure they'll go down some at various points, especially
the super-pricey stuff, but I actually think some readily available planes are
necessary to keep up collector interest.  One reason Stanley is sought after (as
opposed to some other brands like Siegley) is that people start getting the
common ones and then work their way up to the less common.

As for $2 saws, I still find them for 5 bucks at garage sales and even buy some
of them when they are spiffy.  I think that the $2 price was always more of a
garage sale thing than a tool show thing.  But eBay surely did a number on
garage sale old tool prices even when the items offered were not at all what the
seller saw on eBay.  And I'm not sure that will change since you can always find
someone on eBay selling at crazy prices.

- Mark (who isn't trying to start an argument but just offering a slightly
different way to look at supply and price)
276080 Kevin Foley <kevin.foley.135@g...> 2022‑08‑06 Re: transitional jointer lot
Continuing on Scott’s tool price remark.  It seem a lot of bored people found
tool collecting during COVID times.  The items targeted seem to be from a light
read of the internet “literature”.  Most sought after and most highly priced
were bedrocks, Stanley No. 1 and No. 2s.  And for no reason that I can
understand — router planes.  They don't exactly need to be precision instruments
and the performance of good one vs. a bad one isn’t a huge gap.  I think I may
have gloated here that I sold one on ebay for something like $380 that I paid
about $30 on the same venue.  Well the joke was on me in that that router was
soon selling for north of $800.  Bizarre.  There was a peak in the No. 1 frenzy
where  one of middling age, chipped out mouth, chip in the rear of the sole and
broken tote sold for around $2400.  I’ve had a No. 1 for a while and I’m sure I
paid more than it was worth a couple decades ago.  I was tracking this for a
while and thinking the price my fairly nice example would fetch was coming on
par with a nicely kitted out Oneway lathe. Way more fun than a shelf trinket.
Alas I did not act and that bit of insanity has passed.  In a very OCD way I
track tools on ebay way more that I should.  I agree prices are coming down the
other side of the curve.  Tools are posted with with prices that would have been
competitive a few month ago and are now getting no attention.

Kevin in Chantilly — baking briefly in the backyard heat with the hound, seeking
respite from the frozen hell of the house.

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