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276038 | Bill Webber | 2022‑07‑31 | New pursuits |
GGs, Some may remember the lathe I picked up last fall at Bud Brown's auction. I posted a description and pictures under a thread titled New-to-me lathe. I didn't know what I had at the time but a little research showed it to be a head stock and sundry other parts from an early Bergeron Ornamental lathe from about 1795. It was set up as more of a display gadget than an actual working lathe. Historically significant but not in a usable configuration. Pursuing the history of that lathe got me started down the path of these early Ornamental Lathes. With my recent downsizing and household move I'm developing more of an interest in these lathes and have become less interested in my tool focus of recent years. Long story short, I'm pursuing the purchase of two lathes from a very knowledgeable aficionado, writer and ornamental lathe user. I expect the purchase to take a while what with all the packing required, sorting of shipping details, selection of appropriate shippers, etc. In the mean time I thought I'd offer you gents another kind of tool porn. Porn, of course, is in the eye of the beholder, but I find these things have become very appealing to me. Anyway, one of the lathes is a small and early Holtzapffel model from 1927. The second is a newer, more capable, historically significant lathe by Evans from about 1890. Both were manufactured in the U.K. A complete description with history, inventory, and pictures is contained in these two pdf files: Holtzapffel SN 1355: http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/H1355.pdf Evans SN 1288: http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/E1288.pdf For your enjoyment, stay well... Bill W. Charlottesville, VA |
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276039 | gtgrouch@r... | 2022‑07‑31 | Re: New pursuits |
Wow. That is a deep rabbit hole! I'm fascinated with this - the mechanisms seem designed to do complex operations with relative ease. There's an interesting contrast with how the control apparatus is so carefully designed and built while the motive force is the simple treadle. I would love to have one of these, but if I ever started working with it, you'd never see me again. Never seen anything like this. Thanks for sharing, Gary Katsanis Albion New York, USA -----------------------------------------From: "Bill Webber via groups.io" To: oldtools@g... Cc: Sent: Sunday July 31 2022 2:59:20PM Subject: [oldtools] New pursuits GGs, Some may remember the lathe I picked up last fall at Bud Brown's auction. I posted a description and pictures under a thread titled New-to-me lathe. I didn't know what I had at the time but a little research showed it to be a head stock and sundry other parts from an early Bergeron Ornamental lathe from about 1795. It was set up as more of a display gadget than an actual working lathe. Historically significant but not in a usable configuration. Pursuing the history of that lathe got me started down the path of these early Ornamental Lathes. With my recent downsizing and household move I'm developing more of an interest in these lathes and have become less interested in my tool focus of recent years. Long story short, I'm pursuing the purchase of two lathes from a very knowledgeable aficionado, writer and ornamental lathe user. I expect the purchase to take a while what with all the packing required, sorting of shipping details, selection of appropriate shippers, etc. In the mean time I thought I'd offer you gents another kind of tool porn. Porn, of course, is in the eye of the beholder, but I find these things have become very appealing to me. Anyway, one of the lathes is a small and early Holtzapffel model from 1927. The second is a newer, more capable, historically significant lathe by Evans from about 1890. Both were manufactured in the U.K. A complete description with history, inventory, and pictures is contained in these two pdf files: Holtzapffel SN 1355: http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/H1355.pdf /> Evans SN 1288: http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/E1288.pdf /> For your enjoyment, stay well... Bill W. Charlottesville, VA Links: ------ [1] https://groups.io/g/oldtools/unsub |
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276040 | Steve Reynolds <buckrogers709@g...> | 2022‑08‑01 | Re: New pursuits |
Bill introduces us to his new unruly passion and I instantly remember the first time I saw a Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe online. I immediately understood why the Gents of the 19th century were enthralled with them. They define "bonerific gizmosity". And right away I thought of the warning inscribed on the Gates of Hell, "Abandon hope all ye who enter here." Regards, Steve - wishing Bill well on his new journey. One I will not be taking. On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 2:59 PM Bill Webber via groups.io |
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276043 | Mark van Roojen <mvr1@e...> | 2022‑08‑01 | Re: New pursuits |
Just wow! And I'm not at all clear on how this is compatible with downsizing, but I'm glad to see Bill is a lathe collector. I'm sort of an accidental lathe collector ( of 5 lathes of various sorts) but nothing this aesthetically pleasing is in my opportunistically acquired collection. It does seem like a lot of work to transport these. I hope all of the arrangements go smoothly. - Mark |
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276045 | Dennis Heyza <michigaloot@c...> | 2022‑08‑01 | Re: New pursuits |
Wow. Just wow. Way back when in the early days of the List, I was enamored with such devices, but never had the opportunity to purchase one. There was an MWTCA member in Michigan around the same time that had all kinds of treadle stuff, including some lovely lathes. There was an auction (sale?) when he passed but I knew it would be too rich for my blood (and SWMBO's tolerance level for such acquisitions). All that said, your photos did bring back those old longings, if only for a few moments... Dennis -----Original Message----- From: oldtools@g... |
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276047 | Patrick Olguin <paddychulo@g...> | 2022‑08‑01 | Re: New pursuits |
GGs, Did anyone else look at the bottom of page four and for just a second think it read: "Dumbledore’s Screw-cutting Tool?" Because only a legit wizard could possibly figure out how to work that contraption. Wow. That was amazing. Best, Paddy |
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276050 | Bill Webber | 2022‑08‑02 | Re: WTB Fence rod for Stanley 289 |
Hey Gents, Eric knocked out a replacement post for my #289. He had indicated he was on a limited work schedule waiting for an engineering review. He apparently had more time on his hands than we thought. The rod is perfect; fit, finish , and color. Matches the nearly-new #289 nicely. Now I know Eric could have simply tossed the rod in an envelope and passed it to the USPS guy, but not this time. He used a small flat rate box and lots of excelsior to protect the wooden carrier he made for the post. The carrier is a piece of 2 x 3, bored through the end and the post pinned in place lest the pin should escape the carrier: http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/2208-005.JPG A 1 and 1/2 inch hole cross bored into the carrier allows inspection of the product before removing it from its secure carrier. I thought the post was not particularly fragile but Eric apparently thought otherwise and was intent on its safe arrival: http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/2208-006.JPG Anyway, my #289 is whole again. This was one of my early purchases. I got it at a York MWTCA auction in '97. It is a nearly new SW version. I remember how warm the tool was from all the galoots handling it! http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/2208-009.JPG Many thanks, Eric. Bill W. Charlottesville, VA |
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276056 | Rick B <rickburger68@g...> | 2022‑08‑02 | Re: WTB Fence rod for Stanley 289 |
Bridge city eat their heart out, spirit work and customer service. Rick On Tue, Aug 2, 2022, 8:20 AM Bill Webber via groups.io |
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