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275562 Frank Filippone <bmwred735i@g...> 2022‑05‑14 Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?

            
275563 Matthew Groves <grovesthegrey@g...> 2022‑05‑14 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
Love hearing about this adventure.

I have nothing but questions.

I assume it was an unhandled fillester?

Are you a start at the end and work your way back kinda guy?

How thick were your shavings (ish)

Do you have delicate hand skin?

Inquiry minds want to know 

Matthew Groves 
Springfield, MO
275565 Kirk Eppler 2022‑05‑14 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
In the little bit of woodie plane work I do, I put the rear top corner into
the heel of my hand. Not the soft palm, but where it's the extension of the
bone with the hand as close to a right angle as it will go.  Not sure if
it's right or wrong.

And usually start at the end and work my way backwards.

Kirk in Half Moon Bay, CA

On Sat, May 14, 2022, 11:39 AM Matthew Groves 
wrote:

> Love hearing about this adventure.
>
> I have nothing but questions.
>
> I assume it was an unhandled fillester?
>
> Are you a start at the end and work your way back kinda guy?
>
> How thick were your shavings (ish)
>
> Do you have delicate hand skin?
>
> Inquiry minds want to know
>
>
>


-- 
Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, CA 
275569 scottg <scottg@s...> 2022‑05‑15 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
It had occurred to me that there was a problem while I was working the
wood, but I wanted to finish the job, which I did.

annnnnnd................Herein lies the rub.
   If you play guitar for 5 hours when you are not used to it, you will 
bleed for 2 days.
If you operate a shovel ungloved, for 5 hours first day, both your hands 
will have bloody blisters the size of golf balls.
  If I go down to the beach on the first warm day and spend 5 hours 
lounging in the beautiful bright sun. If you are me you will be wearing 
a full coat of oozy murderous blisters, which will pop, (as you are 
looking for anything to cut your throat with)
and then you will have big hunks of skin flaking off for a month.

All these things go enormously better, a bit the first day, bit more the 
second.
  Work into it giving your body a chance to catch on.
  If you are me you will never tan very much, but at least you quit 
burning.
All day, day after day, working it 105 degree sun, no burning.
I ended up with sporadic skin cancer but that is a different story.
   yours scott

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275570 gary allan may 2022‑05‑15 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
Just happened to me, Scott, when I learned that driving 300 and 400 miles in one
day is grueling if you haven't driven more than 60 miles at one time in ten
years. One the bright side, the Blue Ridge Parkway is worth every kink in the
lower back.

  best to all galoots, everywhere; gam, in OlyWA/USA

If your were Einstein's father, we wouldn't have the bomb. Peggy Hill  

    On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 10:56:20 AM PDT, scottg  wrote:  
 
 It had occurred to me that there was a problem while I was working the
wood, but I wanted to finish the job, which I did.

annnnnnd................Herein lies the rub.
   If you play guitar for 5 hours when you are not used to it, you will 
bleed for 2 days.
If you operate a shovel ungloved, for 5 hours first day, both your hands 
will have bloody blisters the size of golf balls.
  If I go down to the beach on the first warm day and spend 5 hours 
lounging in the beautiful bright sun. If you are me you will be wearing 
a full coat of oozy murderous blisters, which will pop, (as you are 
looking for anything to cut your throat with)
and then you will have big hunks of skin flaking off for a month.

All these things go enormously better, a bit the first day, bit more the 
second.
  Work into it giving your body a chance to catch on.
  If you are me you will never tan very much, but at least you quit 
burning.
All day, day after day, working it 105 degree sun, no burning.
I ended up with sporadic skin cancer but that is a different story.
   yours scott

-- 
*******************************
    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
275572 Frank Filippone <bmwred735i@g...> 2022‑05‑16 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
I really do appreciate all the suggestions to date, especially Scott's comments
about building up the skin/muscles before doing a complete job.....

but I am not so sure I have an answer yet.... how SHOULD I hold the plane?  is
the plane gripped with the fingers of the right hand?  Or is it shoved into the
palm?

And maybe the answer is to use a padded palm glove.... ?

Frank Filippone

BMWRed735i@G...
275573 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2022‑05‑16 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
On 2022-05-15 9:29 p.m., Frank Filippone wrote:
> And maybe the answer is to use a padded palm glove.... ?

Not sure about padded palms. But I expect any decent leather work glove 
- with fingers removed - would probably help when getting started.

Don

-- 

God's away on business - Tom Waits

"...it's just a humpty dumpty world" - Ry Cooder
275574 Adam R. Maxwell 2022‑05‑16 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
Hi Frank,

> On May 15, 2022, at 20:29 , Frank Filippone  wrote:
> 
> but I am not so sure I have an answer yet.... how SHOULD I hold the plane?  is
the plane gripped with the fingers of the right hand?  Or is it shoved into the
palm?


For what it's worth, I grip the upper part with my thumb and first finger in the
fork of the hand, and use the heel of your hand to push forward (parallel to the
work surface). Try getting your grip a bit lower, although a wooden fillester is
kind of chunky to grip. I vaguely recall getting a blister from one, pushing on
the rear corner with my palm. You might also try taking a lighter cut, if you're
really pushing hard.

The photo "Method of ploughing" in Ellis' "Modern Practical Joinery" (p. 55)
might help. That was the one that I found in a quick flip through my hardcopy,
anyway.

https://www.woodworkersuk.co.uk/books/modern-practical-joinery-g-ellis-1908.pdf

happy planing,
Adam
275575 Richard Wilson <yorkshireman@y...> 2022‑05‑16 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
Frank needs answers...

> On 16 May 2022, at 04:29, Frank Filippone  wrote:
> 
> I really do appreciate all the suggestions to date, especially Scott's
comments about building up the skin/muscles before doing a complete job.....
> 
> but I am not so sure I have an answer yet.... how SHOULD I hold the plane?  is
the plane gripped with the fingers of the right hand?  Or is it shoved into the
palm?
> 
> And maybe the answer is to use a padded palm glove.... ?
> 
> Frank Filippone

(snipped) 

I’d have thought the answer is obvious Frank - you need a hand transplant.  

But seriously, who’s the master in this - the plane or you?  I’ve had some
uncomfortable planes, just not right for my hand.  Some subtle fettling helps -
assuming it’s not a $10,000 dollar museum piece, then round over the edges, find
where it’s rubbing, and re-shape it, make it comfortable (and re-colour and re-
finish the alteration to blend it in, if that’s your taste.  The plane becomes
more useful, and it becomes a part of ‘you’

I was recently fineagled into buying a jewellers hammer with an unusual to me
pistol grip handle, mainly so I could try the handle shape.  It was frightfully
new.  I mean frightfully - bright chrome head, and mirror like thick gloop on
the handle.  Scrape off the gloop to reveal some dreadful coloured wood, and
then some subtle, or not so subtle recolouring next time I had some stain out,
and finally it will get oil or wax.  The head still needs a wire wheel, or
hitting with some 120 grit to knock off the shine - then it will be ‘mine’

When these things were new, and you made your living from them, you wouldn’t
hesitate to adjust it so you could use it all day.  I get grumpier and more
impatient as I grow older, and don’t have time for things that don’t work the
way I want.


But your answer may be different 

Richard Wilson
Yorkshireman Galoot
in Northumbria.  North of the Prince Bishops country 





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in the most northerly county, farther north even than Yorkshire
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275579 Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> 2022‑05‑16 Re: Blisters.... Woodies... How to hold a plane?
Frank -

That's what I do.  I had a pair of bicycling gloves, fingerless with a
padded leather palm and open knit back.  They worked great to protect
unconditioned hands.  I misplaced those and now use a pair of gloves I got
at HD.  I don't like them as well, but they do the trick.  I use them
mostly when I'm ripping planks.  Seems like my tender spot is the web
between my thumb and palm.

Phil

On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 7:29 PM Frank Filippone 
wrote:

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