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275120 | John M. Johnston <jmjhnstn@m...> | 2022‑01‑20 | Wainscot |
What kind of wood was "wainscot?” See the reference below: Summary Description of Wooden Canteens made by John Trotter, London Aug. 23, 1780 "Frith St., Soho, August 23, 1780 … Having made canteens of several kinds of wood it is found when they are filled with water it penetrates through the heads of those made of beech, and it is also liable to warp. Foreign oak or wainscot will answer the purpose much better, and is made use of here for small vessels. Submitted to Lord Amherst’s opinion." Source: Letter from John Trotter to Maj. Gen. Morrison, dated Aug. 23, 1780 in Report on American Manuscripts in the Royal Institution of Great Britain, Vol. II, His Majesty’s Stationery Office, London, 1906, Google Books, p. 173. John M. Johnston “P.S. If you do not receive this, of course it must have been miscarried; therefore I beg you to write and let me know.” - Sir Boyle Roche, M.P. |
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275124 | michael petre <petre.mic@g...> | 2022‑01‑20 | Re: Wainscot |
Hi John, Historically it was imported oak of fine quality... knot free, low tanin. Originally it referred to riven boards from old growth trees, then to quarter sawn boards. Michael |
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275121 | Bill Ghio | 2022‑01‑20 | Re: Wainscot |
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:29 AM, John M. Johnston |
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275122 | Dennis Heyza <michigaloot@c...> | 2022‑01‑20 | Re: Wainscot |
John, I would agree that oak was (mostly?) used in England, but believe a wider variety of woods were used here in "the colonies". I think pine, poplar, and walnut would be period appropriate (the first two particularly for painted wainscot). Might be something worth asking Chris Swan, conservator at Colonial Williamsburg during the Working Wood symposium running the next few days. Let me check. Dennis Heyza New Baltimore, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: oldtools@g... |
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275123 | Nichael Cramer <nichael@s...> | 2022‑01‑20 | Re: Wainscot |
Quoting from The Britannica: > Traditionally, British wainscot was made of oak-imported from Russia, > Germany, or Holland-and wainscot oak remains a term for select, > quartersawn oak for paneling. https://www.britannica.com/art/wainscot N ---------------------------------------- From: "John M. Johnston" |
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275131 | Dave Tardiff <dwtardiff13@g...> | 2022‑01‑21 | Re: Wainscot |
The parlor in my 1806 house in Vermont is all wide pine, usually single boards for each raised panel. Based on photos, was probably painted originally, is now mostly unfinished due to an earlier-than-I owner probably stripping the paint off, at least in that room. Most of the other fireplaces (eight in all) have a painted raised panel wall on the fireplace side, and chair-rail height wainscotting around the rest of the room, with plaster above, usually wallpapered. There are a few houses in the area that still have stenciled or hand-painted walls, like those of Rufus Porter, and usually above painted wainscotting. See https://www.pwpcenter.org/ for more information if you're interested. On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 9:01 AM Dennis Heyza |
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275138 | scottg <scottg@s...> | 2022‑01‑22 | Re: Wainscot |
In the use-what-you-got vein........... 50 years ago I once covered the lower part of my living / dining room in "mill ends" from the local sawmill boneyard. In those days they would cut everything longer than needed, and then trim off the ends. Many times it would be ideal kiln dried 2' long planks of every size. I would pitch mill ends into my truck for firewood all day long! 1/2 the town did as well. So, 2' .........1X12 pine, vertical first row and then horizontal on top, spanning the joints. Lumber unit stickers (spacer strips to hold lumber apart for drying) used as battens, then a 1x4 on top for the rail? Thats what I called wainscot My friends and neighbors thought it was nice. :) yours scott -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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275139 | Kirk Eppler | 2022‑01‑23 | Re: Wainscot |
This link may help. Scroll up a bit from the 1st usage of wainscot for the whole deal, but a species of Oak. Book is from 1786, so almost a contemporary, big picture view. Silva Or a Discourse of Forest-Trees, and the Propagation of Timber in His Majesty's Dominions ... Together with an Historical Account of the Sacredness and Use of Standing Groves Volume 1 By John Evelyn <https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=inauthor:%22John+Evelyn%22&tbm=bks> · 1786 https://books.google.com/books?id=ZkJTAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA73&dq=tree+species+wainscot& hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiWr7zPg8f1 AhUcJ0QIHW5xCg0Q6AF6BAgHEAM Kirk in Half moon bay, ca, got a few minutes of garage cleanup in tonight. On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 5:30 AM John M. Johnston |
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275140 | Kirk Eppler | 2022‑01‑23 | Re: Wainscot |
Bad form, own post, etc etc, but originally I thought this was the same book, but they are both referencing the same Mr Lucombe, for whom the oak is named. This is a bit easier to read without them funny S shaped like an f. https://books.google.com/books?id=6IpYAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA1259&dq=tree+species+wainsco t&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiWr7zPg8 f1AhUcJ0QIHW5xCg0Q6AF6BAgDEAM KE, eating some fine Parker honey with my oat bread and soup. On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 8:32 PM Kirk Eppler via groups.io |
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