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273321 Christian Gagneraud <chgans@g...> 2021‑04‑05 Removing oil from wood
Hi there,

On the topic of tote repair and fixing, I have a request for tips and tricks.
I bought a Paramiko no 10 plane not long ago, it is in good condition,
except the front knob and tote are saturated with machine oil.
I've cleaned them, dried tham, and they keep sweating oil.

Any techniques you can think of to remove the oil from these pieces of wood?

I've noticed that the hotter it is the more they seat out oil, so i
was thinking that i could boil or steam them.

Thanks Scott for sharing your tips on repairing totes, I have to test
the clamp you described there.

Chris,
NZ - just finished the wooden structure for the new 1000L water tank .
273328 Richard Wilson <yorkshireman@y...> 2021‑04‑05 Re: Removing oil from wood
Fullers Earth was a old time remedy for absorbing oil and suchlike.

I’ve no idea where you night find some nowadays, nor of its efficacy in such a
role.  As you mention that the oil is migrating from inside the wood, I imagine
that packing the wood into fullers earth and some gentle baking may work.


In default of the original maybe something like flour would do the job?


Richard Wilson
In Northumberland, where the sun is over the horizon, and baking the springtime
frost from the world

and awaiting the next post ‘how to get rid of flour from a tote?’






> On 5 Apr 2021, at 01:06, Christian Gagneraud  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> On the topic of tote repair and fixing, I have a request for tips and tricks.
> I bought a Paramiko no 10 plane not long ago, it is in good condition,
> except the front knob and tote are saturated with machine oil.
> I've cleaned them, dried tham, and they keep sweating oil.
> 
> Any techniques you can think of to remove the oil from these pieces of wood?
> 
> I've noticed that the hotter it is the more they seat out oil, so i
> was thinking that i could boil or steam them.
> 
> Thanks Scott for sharing your tips on repairing totes, I have to test
> the clamp you described there.
> 
> Chris,
> NZ - just finished the wooden structure for the new 1000L water tank .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Yorkshireman Galoot
in the most northerly county, farther north even than Yorkshire
IT #300
273329 Kenneth Stagg <kenneth.stagg@g...> 2021‑04‑05 Re: Removing oil from wood
Non-clumping cat litter is frequently based on Fuller's earth.  I know my
grandfather used it extensively for cleaning up oil spills in his auto shop.

-Ken

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 3:46 AM Richard Wilson <
yorkshireman@y...> wrote:
273333 Kirk Eppler 2021‑04‑05 Re: Removing oil from wood
Hmm, oil spills. I have a recipe for cleaning up oil stains that uses
cornmeal and dawn dish soap, tho the cornmeal may be an abrasive or
absorbent .

Kirk in Half Moon Bay, CA, not motivated for a day of document writing
today.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 4:15 AM Kenneth Stagg 
wrote:

> Non-clumping cat litter is frequently based on Fuller's earth.  I know my
> grandfather used it extensively for cleaning up oil spills in his auto
> shop.

-- 
Sent from my iPad, apologies for the Auto Correct errors. Kirk
273337 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2021‑04‑05 Re: Removing oil from wood
GG's:

Acetone is often used to remove the wood oils when gluing Rosewood totes.  This
data point implies that Rosewood can survive a wiping with Acetone. YMMV: I've
only used it to prepare the surfaces of a broken tote.

"Goof Off" is a proprietary compound for cleaning wood, including removing
grubby fingerprints and paint spatters.  I've never tried it on motor oil,
though.

As I write this to my esteemed friends, I'm realizing that I've never actually
removed Motor Oil from a Rosewood, so I don't have any actual experience to
offer, only "theories!"

John Ruth
Metuchen NJ
273338 Claudio DeLorenzi <claudio@d...> 2021‑04‑05 Re: Removing oil from wood
I wouldn't recommend "Goof Off" for this (it has an oily feel).  Acetone
and or denatured (ethyl) alcohol should remove the oils.  Use a heat gun
out doors on the wood and wipe the oils off.  I would finish with shellac
using some alcohol based leather (shoe) dye for color if needed.  A drop or
two of the leather dye can be mixed with shellac directly if you like, and
you can control the color by adding more coats.

-- Claudio
273348 Christian Gagneraud <chgans@g...> 2021‑04‑06 Re: Removing oil from wood
Thanks everyone for all the ideas.
2 main trends so far, on one hand a "powder" approach, and on the
other a "chemical" approach.
Some heat seems to help too.
Maybe i'll try both approaches.
Anyone has ever used odourless kerosene?
I was told you can clean up old oil stones with a 1 to 2 weeks bath in kerosene.
The Main issue is the odour, I've never tried this "odourless" kerosene.

Chris
273349 Brent <brentpmed@c...> 2021‑04‑06 Re: Removing oil from wood
Something you may try:

Pack the knob and tote in the dry adsorbent of your choice in a vacuum bag and
then draw a vacuum on it. Perhaps it will draw some of ghoul out without having
to resort to heat and chemicals.

Just a thought.
Brent Kinsey
273353 Kirk Eppler 2021‑04‑06 Re: Removing oil from wood
That thought crossed my mind, but was afraid of sucking dirty oil into the
pump.  Guess if you are using a Venturi it’s less concerning, but what
would safely trap it out?

Kirk in HMB, CA, looking for motivation to get off the sofa.  Liking how
Brent made a demon out of the oil, quite appropriate.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:04 PM Brent  wrote:

> Something you may try:
>
> Pack the knob and tote in the dry adsorbent of your choice in a vacuum bag
> and then draw a vacuum on it. Perhaps it will draw some of ghoul out
> without having to resort to heat and chemicals.
>
>
> --
Sent from my iPad, apologies for the Auto Correct errors. Kirk
273380 Brent <brentpmed@c...> 2021‑04‑07 Re: Removing oil from wood
Dern auto correct! 

I was thinking the adsorbent material (oil dry or cat litter) would
Soak it up.  With such a small amount of oil coming out of the wood it never
occurred to me it might make it to the pump.

Perhaps ghoul was right after all. 
Brent Kinsey
273425 Paul Aud 2021‑04‑10 Re: Removing oil from wood
Fullers earth is sold on Amazon as diatomaceous earth.
273426 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2021‑04‑10 Re: Removing oil from wood
On 2021-04-09 6:16 p.m., Paul Aud via groups.io wrote:
> Fullers earth is sold on Amazon as diatomaceous earth.
>
>
And at most garden centers as well.

Don
273427 Kirk Eppler 2021‑04‑10 Re: Removing oil from wood
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 5:17 PM Paul Aud via groups.io  wrote:

> Fullers earth is sold on Amazon as diatomaceous earth.
>
>
And science disagrees with them, but for many things they may work the same

https://sciencing.com/differences-fullers-earth-diatomaceous-earth-8432515.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuller%27s_earth


-- 
Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, who actually got to use an auger today.  I
think the #6 I chose was slightly bent, not that it mattered for this job.
273428 Paul Aud 2021‑04‑10 Re: Removing oil from wood
Thanks Kirk.  I'd never come across that before.  I'd only found that they
are the same.  Good to know.  I'll also point out for the oil absorbing
discussion that you can get a volume of clay sold to soak up oil from
places like Tractor Supply here in the states for cheap.  A little time in
the blender and you'd have a nice powder to try with the soaking or vacuum
trick.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, 9:19 PM Kirk Eppler via groups.io  wrote:
273433 Christian Gagneraud <chgans@g...> 2021‑04‑11 Re: Removing oil from wood
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 02:17, John Ruth  wrote:
>
> GG's:
>
> Acetone is often used to remove the wood oils when gluing Rosewood totes.
This data point implies that Rosewood can survive a wiping with Acetone. YMMV:
I've only used it to prepare the surfaces of a broken tote.

So i've soaked the tote and the knob for a week in a jar of acetone,
and.... Drom Rolls....
It doesn't seem to work, the wood is still sweating oil when exposed
to the sun. :(

Planning to test baking them at low temperature with some pumice, cat
litter, fuller earth, maize flour, ....
Hope this will work.

Chris
273434 Claudio DeLorenzi <claudio@d...> 2021‑04‑11 Re: Removing oil from wood
After cleaning with acetone, try sealing the surface with shellac.  It
might still ooze if you leave it to get hot in the sun, but it might adhere
enough to feel alright during use?  I've got many oiled old tools, but
almost all oils eventually polymerize over time.  Very few don't, so it
would be interesting to find out what was used.  Old timers used to dump
handles into containers of raw linseed for days at a time, and they
eventually got hard coatings embedded into the wood (mallet heads etc).
    Is it possibly a wax that is melting in the heat?
Cheers from Waterloo (in the first thunderstorm of the season)
Claudio

.
273435 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2021‑04‑11 Re: Removing oil from wood
Claudio and Assembled Galooterati,

> On Apr 11, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Claudio DeLorenzi  wrote:
> 
> " I've got many oiled old tools, but almost all oils eventually polymerize
over time.  Very few don't, so it would be interesting to find out what was
used. "

Christian started this thread by writing "I bought a Paramiko no 10 plane not
long ago, it is in good condition, except the front knob and tote are saturated
with machine oil."

Auto Engine Oil, a.k.a. Motor Oil, getting accidentally spilled on Tools is
commonplace...

So, it may be an oil which resists polymerization.

That said, if you wish to try to polymerize the   oil, my SWAG would be to use
"Japan Dryer"

John Ruth
In rainy Metuchen, NJ

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