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271568 Mike Lynd 2020‑07‑30 Anarchist's workbench available for free download
This link, from my email of 7th July, still works to obtain the pdf
download:

https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07
/AWB_Consumer_June-2020_v3.pdf">https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-
content/uploads/2020/07/AWB_Consumer_June-2020_v3.pdf

best wishes,

Mike
271570 Kirk Eppler 2020‑07‑30 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
This link works for me!

KE

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mike Lynd via OldTools <
oldtools@s...> wrote:
271571 "nichael @sover.net" <nichael@s...> 2020‑07‑30 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
Just used the link below to download it to my iPad.  - N
  
  
  

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 From: "Kirk Eppler via OldTools" 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:02 PM
To: "Mike Lynd" 
Cc: "Old Tools" 
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Anarchist's workbench available for free download   
This link works for me!

KE

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mike Lynd via OldTools <
oldtools@s...> wrote:

> This link, from my email of 7th July, still works to obtain the pdf
> download:
>
>
> https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07
/AWB_Consumer_June-2020_v3.pdf">https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-
content/uploads/2020/07/AWB_Consumer_June-2020_v3.pdf
>
>
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271574 Chuck Taylor 2020‑07‑31 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
Gentle Galoots,

Mike Lynd wrote: 


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This link, from my email of 7th July, still works to obtain the pdf
download:

https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07
/AWB_Consumer_June-2020_v3.pdf">https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-
content/uploads/2020/07/AWB_Consumer_June-2020_v3.pdf
====

I read Chris Schwarz's latest workbench book right after Mike posted the link.
(Thanks, Mike!) Maybe this is a good excuse to talk about this and Chris's other
workbench books?

I have read and enjoyed all 3 of Chris's workbench books in spite of the
extraneous commentary about non-woodworking issues. It's refreshing to note that
he has finally gotten the message that he should leave that stuff out in his
future writings.

There is a lot of good information about workbenches in Chris's books. I don't
agree with all of his opinions, but that's to be expected. For one thing, I
don't understand why he prefers a planing stop to a tail vise. Sure, you can get
by without a tail vise, but why would you want to?

One thing about his books that I find amusing:  When it comes to selection of
wood, low cost is a virtue (think Southern Yellow Pine). But when it comes to
bench vise hardware, low cost is irrelevant; he recommends the expensive stuff
(think Benchcrafted).

The theme of the latest book seems to be that after having built umpteen
workbenches and written 3 books about them, he has finally figured out how to
build the ideal workbench (at least for his needs). I built the ideal workbench
for my needs on the first try (not counting the one I nailed together in a hurry
40 years ago!). But I will be the first to admit that that wouldn't have
happened it I hadn't first read Chris's first 2 workbench books plus Scott
Landis's "The Workbench Book" and relevant sections of books by Charles Hasluck,
Bernard Jones, and Roy Underhill.

So thanks, Chris, for the new book and for making it freely available.

Cheers,
Chuck Taylor
north of Seattle
271581 "Adam R. Maxwell via OldTools" <oldtools@s...> 2020‑08‑01 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
> On Jul 30, 2020, at 19:44 , Chuck Taylor via OldTools  wrote:
> 
> There is a lot of good information about workbenches in Chris's books. I don't
agree with all of his opinions, but that's to be expected. For one thing, I
don't understand why he prefers a planing stop to a tail vise. Sure, you can get
by without a tail vise, but why would you want to?

Tail vises are a crutch for people who can't make
their own planing stops :).

-- 
Adam
Sweating over dovetails in a 90˚ shop in Benton City, WA
271582 Chuck Taylor 2020‑08‑01 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
Adam,
You have it backwards:  planing stops are for those who can’t build a proper
tail vise. :-)
Chuck sitting on a cool island beach north of Seattle, watching the tide come in


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 12:46 PM, Adam R. Maxwell  wrote:



> On Jul 30, 2020, at 19:44 , Chuck Taylor via OldTools  wrote:
> 
> There is a lot of good information about workbenches in Chris's books. I don't
agree with all of his opinions, but that's to be expected. For one thing, I
don't understand why he prefers a planing stop to a tail vise. Sure, you can get
by without a tail vise, but why would you want to?

Tail vises are a crutch for people who can't make
their own planing stops :).

-- 
Adam
Sweating over dovetails in a 90˚ shop in Benton City, WA
271583 "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> 2020‑08‑02 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
An interesting point has ariz..

planing stops versus a tail vice (vise, Paddy) 


One could say that the stop is just that. Planing needs the work to resist the
force of the blade slicing into it, and only unidirectionally.

A vice clamps the work by its ends, so will resist in both directions.   But, if
overtight, can bow the work.  At the extreme, say a 2mm divider in a writing
slope drawer, there is a problem of distorting the work.  larger material not so
of course, but there is a grey area for, say, a window glazing bar, where the
vice action can distort the work.

Of course, there is the case of the 2mm section being so thin that the plane
action itself can cause the material between the blade and the stop to ripple,
and even form a wave and smash.  No real cure here, other than taking a No7 or
No8 (Try planes, Jeff) that have a front section long enough to cover your work
and stop it lifting.


The again, the real answer is that you need both.  and with all our discussion
on dog holes, there surely isn’t anyone here without the set up to drop a dog
into a suitable opening and use that?


Which leads me to ask if anyone here has used the fancy YB dog hole system being
touted by Peter Parfitt of ‘Parf dogs’ and the Parf stick layout system?
I happened to have watched a video about it, and I admit to being impressed.  It
codifies our old fashioned system of dog holes into a high tech bench top of
stable material with an engineering tolerance layout of 20mm holes, then various
jigs for the holes.  The cunning thing is the application of the layout tools to
produce a grid of holes so accurately placed that they can sell drop over stops
that fit over dogs placed anywhere - up, across, or diagonally.

I’ll save you searching - look at the stuff surrounding here..

Scott - sit down first - the prices are eye-watering.   I was in the workshop.
I looked at my bench with the square holes all laid out on a grid - looked at
this fancy schmancy worktop with holes all laid out on a grid, and decided I’d
make up one of their cam clamps to suit my (wooden) dog system.  Saved a load of
money that way.  But the inventor is on one of the videos, and I wish him well.

https://www.axminstertools.com/ujk-technology-multifunction-workbench-
frame-only-102540">https://www.axminstertools.com/ujk-technology-multifunction-
workbench-frame-only-102540 <https://www.axminstertools.com/ujk-
technology-multifunction-workbench-frame-
only-102540">https://www.axminstertools.com/ujk-technology-multifunction-
workbench-frame-only-102540>




Richard Wilson
Yorkshireman saving money in Northumberland
271584 Tim <tpendleton@g...> 2020‑08‑02 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
Richard regaled us with a tale of high-tech benchtop gizmosity before
gently assuaging our Galoot trepidation with assurances that he did indeed
teach an old (bench) dog new tricks!

Well done Richard!

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 5:05 AM yorkshireman@y... <
yorkshireman@y...> wrote:
271686 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2020‑08‑28 Re: Anarchist's workbench available for free download
I have someone's idea of "workbench holding in a bag"
from the 60's I think.
   It consists of pegs and cams and a clamping bar.
Supposed to do everything you can think of.

Apparently it didn't sell though
  http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/oldtools/benchclamp.JPG
While you can get by with very little in bench accessories if you have to.
Or add a bunch of different ones and try different things.

   But a genuine end vise?  A pretty one of infinite power, that moves 
like butter and weighs as much as you do?
      That is limousine service.

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/bench2.jpg
yours scott

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