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268831 Thomas Bruce <tom.bruce.trb@g...> 2019‑07‑05 New uses for old stuff
Folks:

I've always thought it would be interesting to compile a list of new uses
for older tools  -- not, for example, singing the ergonomic virtues of old
hand saws, but collecting new applications.  For example:

-- Farrier's hammers are surprisingly useful for putting rush seats in
chairs; there's a lot of tacking involved, and the chair rails bounce a
lot, and the combination of extra weight, down-angled shape, and small
striking surface are ideal.
-- I know a guy who cleans up Corian seams with a #80.
-- Yankee push drills are the greatest tool ever invented for putting up
those annoying little brackets that come with modern window shades -- easy
to work with over your head, and easy to get into the corners.

Any interest?  More?

t

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268833 "jjb-aia@j..." <jjb-aia@j...> 2019‑07‑06 Re: New uses for old stuff
Tom wrote:

"I've always thought it would be interesting to compile a list of new uses for
older tools-- not, for example, singing the ergonomic virtues of old hand saws,
but collecting new applications."

Most of my tool uses are consistent with their original intents, but I have
found an adaptive use for adjustable brick mason's tongs. While perfect for
carrying many bricks, they also serve as a handle for stove length firewood
rounds. Perfect for those times a wheelbarrow or cart in the woods is not the
right extrication tool. Just a slight bend to the corners of the pressure pads
helps them grab, while not preventing their original use. Old tool content: Mine
are likely half a century old (tag sale find) and they help me perpetuate
archaic heating technologies.

Jack Butkus, in hot and humid Trumbull, CT
268836 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2019‑07‑07 Re: New uses for old stuff
Ohhhhhh I have a new use for an old tool, and its a dandy!!

Once upon a time most water pipes were lead.
Lead pipe had certain things designed for it.
   One of them was a reamer to take the rough burr off the inside of 
freshly cut pipe.

The reamers were steel and as all water pipe went to copper or 
galvanized steel, the trusty reamers fell into disuse, and eventually 
into a "whatsit?"
  Several times a year someone will find one and wonder what in the 
world it is.

Guys have theorized it as a kind of a wood reamer. But the angle of 
taper is too much for most wood uses.
It actually will ream wood when its sharp (and they are easy to sharpen).
  But I don't need to countersink too many holes as big as the working 
rage of these.

  Well the wheels of life slowly turn, and now galvanized pipe is going 
the way off the buggy whip.
But it turns out the classy little reamers are the exact perfect thing 
for taking the burr off of freshly cut PVC pipe! Nothing better.
A quick twist of the wrist and its smooth as glass!

  http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/oldtools/pipereamer.
JPG

yours scott




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268843 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑07‑07 Re: New uses for old stuff
I thought they were barrel bung hole reamers, but I have seen so many of them I
always asked myself “who’s reaming all those bungholes”.

Ed Minch
268846 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑07‑07 Re: New uses for old stuff
More re-uses

A cobblers hammer with  polished dome shaped face is perfect for installing
guitar frets

From Paul Sellars - use a router plane with its final depth setting as a marking
gauge for those depths.  The good news is that now you need another router so
you can leave the final setting on the one used for marking.

Ed Minch
268849 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2019‑07‑07 Re: New uses for old stuff
Ed,

I had also thought those reamers were cooper’s tools, but my understanding was
that they were TAP reamers, rather than BUNG reamers.

My humble understanding had been that the bung stave of a wooden barrel was
bored and reamed by a single tee-handled tool which has a regular screw-auger
nose and then a reamer cone with a single plane-like cutting edge above that.  (
How coopers sharpened that reamer edge was always a mystery! )

The tap hole in the edge of the head of the barrel I thought was bored with an
ordinary auger and then ostensibly taper-teamed for a cork with one of these
supposed “cooper’s tap reamers.”  _I now believe that Scott is correct about
these being lead-pipe plumber’s tools because the taper is “just wrong” for a
cork._

Scott has done it again!  Dissipated an old tool myth with true Galootish
knowledge!

John Ruth
Who will move this tool to the plumbing tote.

Sent from my iPhone
268853 mick dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> 2019‑07‑07 Re: New uses for old stuff
GGs

A slaters ripper is a handy item for sliding in behind items (shaving 
cabinets etc) that have been glued to walls with dobs of various types 
of goop. Sharpen the end of the ripper, or at least get it pointy. The 
ripper can be pushed through most pliable goops, or you can use the hook 
as a crude saw.

What's a slaters ripper? Google.

There are more efficient tools for removing items of walls. A 
sledgehammer for example works quite well.

Mick Dowling
Melbourne


------ Original Message ------
From: "Thomas Bruce" 
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Sent: Friday, 5 Jul, 2019 At 9:45 PM
Subject: [OldTools] New uses for old stuff

Folks:

I've always thought it would be interesting to compile a list of new 
uses
for older tools  -- not, for example, singing the ergonomic virtues of 
old
hand saws, but collecting new applications.

t

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268856 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2019‑07‑08 Re: New uses for old stuff
Right you are, Mick!  Actually, for any thing nailed but you can't get
at the nail from the front.  Took me a while, but I finally found one I
could afford. 

Mike In Woodland
268857 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2019‑07‑08 Re: New uses for old stuff
John, there are bung reamers, but what  you're thinking of are bung
augers.  Those with screw auger nose are a good deal more recent.  The
earlier bung augers had a screw tip like a gimlet, and sometimes not
even that (those were more like spoon bits). 

Depending on how badly they need to be sharpened, I use a saw file or an
Arkansas stone.  Reamers are easier to sharpen, as they have a blade not
unlike a wooden spokeshave set in a tapered wood core. 

Mike in Woodland
268905 Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> 2019‑07‑16 Re: New uses for old stuff
I’ve used a compass saw to great effect carving pumpkins at Halloween.

Michael

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM Michael Blair  wrote:

> John, there are bung reamers, but what  you're thinking of are bung
> augers.  Those with screw auger nose are a good deal more recent.  The
> earlier bung augers had a screw tip like a gimlet, and sometimes not
> even that (those were more like spoon bits).
>
> Depending on how badly they need to be sharpened, I use a saw file or an
> Arkansas stone.  Reamers are easier to sharpen, as they have a blade not
> unlike a wooden spokeshave set in a tapered wood core.
>
> Mike in Woodland
>
> On 2019-07-07 04:18, John Ruth wrote:
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > I had also thought those reamers were cooper's tools, but my
> understanding was that they were TAP reamers, rather than BUNG reamers.
> >
> > My humble understanding had been that the bung stave of a wooden barrel
> was bored and reamed by a single tee-handled tool which has a regular
> screw-auger nose and then a reamer cone with a single plane-like cutting
> edge above that.  ( How coopers sharpened that reamer edge was always a
> mystery! )
> >
> > The tap hole in the edge of the head of the barrel I thought was bored
> with an ordinary auger and then ostensibly taper-teamed for a cork with one
> of these supposed "cooper's tap reamers."  _I now believe that Scott is
> correct about these being lead-pipe plumber's tools because the taper is
> "just wrong" for a cork._
> >
> > Scott has done it again!  Dissipated an old tool myth with true
> Galootish knowledge!
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268907 Kirk Eppler 2019‑07‑16 Re: New uses for old stuff
Gouges, auger bits work well too.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 10:14 PM Michael Suwczinsky 
wrote:
268961 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: New uses for old stuff
I discovered a new use today for objects that have been hanging around 
in my shop for ages. The discs which make up the storage capacity of 
hard drives can be separated from the stack in which they're deployed, 
and used as mirrors for peering into otherwise inaccessible regions. For 
example, I used one today to help me paint into the outside corners and 
edges of a window frame from within the basement. They are metallic, 
mirrored, a convenient size, practically indestructible and come with a 
factory hang-hole!

FWIW
Don


On 2019-07-05 5:45 a.m., Thomas Bruce wrote:
> Folks:
>
> I've always thought it would be interesting to compile a list of new uses
> for older tools  -- not, for example, singing the ergonomic virtues of old
> hand saws, but collecting new applications.  For example:
>
> -- Farrier's hammers are surprisingly useful for putting rush seats in
> chairs; there's a lot of tacking involved, and the chair rails bounce a
> lot, and the combination of extra weight, down-angled shape, and small
> striking surface are ideal.
> -- I know a guy who cleans up Corian seams with a #80.
> -- Yankee push drills are the greatest tool ever invented for putting up
> those annoying little brackets that come with modern window shades -- easy
> to work with over your head, and easy to get into the corners.
>
> Any interest?  More?
>
> t
>

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268962 Chuck Taylor 2019‑07‑27 Re: New uses for old stuff
Don wrote:

====
I discovered a new use today for objects that have been hanging around 
in my shop for ages. The discs which make up the storage capacity of 
hard drives can be separated from the stack in which they're deployed, 
and used as mirrors...
====


The magnets in those disc drives are pretty strong too.

Chuck Taylor
north of Seattle
268963 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: New uses for old stuff
On 2019-07-26 9:24 p.m., Chuck Taylor wrote:
> Don wrote:
>
> ====
> I discovered a new use today for objects that have been hanging around
> in my shop for ages. The discs which make up the storage capacity of
> hard drives can be separated from the stack in which they're deployed,
> and used as mirrors...
> ====
>
>
> The magnets in those disc drives are pretty strong too.

I have a bunch of them around the shop, attached to a waste stack, 
teleposts, lathe, bandsaw & steel conduit. Perfect for chuck keys, small 
wrenches etc. Some are very strong. The problem is separating them from 
the armature to which they're attached without breaking them. I haven't 
found a consistently successful method.

Don

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Enough protectionist cr@p... BUY CANADIAN. - I said that.

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petroleum.” ― Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

“Nature does not care for your opinion.” Robin Coope

“You never know who's swimming naked until the tide goes out.”—Warren Buffet

“In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria.”
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268964 james rich <jameslrich3@g...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: New uses for old stuff
I use used hard drive magnets to hold chuck keys to my drill presses
and to hold other tools pertinent to each machine. I mean I would if I had
any
electron chasing tools !

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 8:26 PM Chuck Taylor via OldTools <
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268965 Dragon List <dragon01list@g...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: New uses for old stuff
i leave them on the armature.  i use them to collect metal grinder swarf,
and to dampen the ring on my anvil.

bill
felton, ca
268966 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: New uses for old stuff
> On Jul 27, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Dragon List  wrote:
> 
> to dampen the ring on my anvil


Tell me about that - my little 38 pounder rings like a bell

Ed Minch
268967 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: magnets
If you ever had any attraction to magnets, right now is the most amazing 
time in history.
Every size and shape, buckets of them,.............. a nickel ninety 
eight, free shipping.

I just had to order some. They come is a spectacular array of sizes.  
The best deal for me was to order 50 free shipping.

   If someone needs magnets to install magnets into an empty 1/4" hex 
bit holder?
  I would give you all you wanted, but shipping is cheaper to buy a sack 
yourself..... hahhahha

   They are super cool but there is a limit.
I once got stuck between some.
   A guy had hired me to review some of his products and send a big box 
of swag
It was drills and burrs and magnets and clamps, a run of his swap meet 
goods I think.
  Some of the magnets were about 2 3/4" X 1" X 3/16"
A stack of these with a bit of your skin between...........is not good

  If you ever want to, .........you can kill neo magnets with a little 
heat.
I ended up putting some in a tin coffee can and building a tiny fire in it.
Killed em dead.

I kept enough.
  I have one or two stuck to metal somewhere no casual observer would 
notice. In case I need one for something.
        yours scott

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    scottg@s...
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et/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcr
est.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
268968 Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: magnets
My smithy is sheathed and roofed in corregated steel, and I’ve got pages
and printouts and plans all stuck to it with an array of scrounged super
magnets.
Regular old fridge magnets don’t last and I’ve taken to harvesting 1/2”bits
of 1/8x1/16 out of fancy booze and electronics  packaging.
Time to bite the bullet and order online, my sad  devotion to the idea I
can find what I want in brick and mortar world has not conjured up the
droids,, I mean magnets I’m looking for.

Michael

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 10:56 AM scott grandstaff 
wrote:

>
> If you ever had any attraction to magnets, right now is the most amazing
> time in history.
> Every size and shape, buckets of them,.............. a nickel ninety
> eight, free shipping.
>
> I just had to order some. They come is a spectacular array of sizes.
> The best deal for me was to order 50 free shipping.
>
>    If someone needs magnets to install magnets into an empty 1/4" hex
> bit holder?
>   I would give you all you wanted, but shipping is cheaper to buy a sack
> yourself..... hahhahha
>
>    They are super cool but there is a limit.
> I once got stuck between some.
>    A guy had hired me to review some of his products and send a big box
> of swag
> It was drills and burrs and magnets and clamps, a run of his swap meet
> goods I think.
>   Some of the magnets were about 2 3/4" X 1" X 3/16"
> A stack of these with a bit of your skin between...........is not good
>
>   If you ever want to, .........you can kill neo magnets with a little
> heat.
> I ended up putting some in a tin coffee can and building a tiny fire in it.
> Killed em dead.
>
> I kept enough.
>   I have one or two stuck to metal somewhere no casual observer would
> notice. In case I need one for something.
>         yours scott
>
> --
> *******************************
>     Scott Grandstaff
>     Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
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owcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
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268970 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑07‑27 Re: New uses for old stuff
On 2019-07-27 10:58 a.m., Dragon List wrote:
> i use them to collect metal grinder swarf

Particularly handy if you close the magnet in a sandwich bag, then turn 
the bag inside out to capture the swarf and retrieve the clean magnet.

Don

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