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265569 Bill Webber <ol2lrus@v...> 2018‑03‑27 JOBOX, the picture show
The chest was made by a Mr. J. Hilton who was a Connecticut pattern maker. It
was made around 1880.  It was passed down to his grandson who traded it for an
automobile in 1920.  It spent the next 70 years in an attic and sometime late in
the 1990's was sold to Ken Newell of southern Maryland.  Ken passed on in July
of last year and the chest was consigned to Bud Brown's auction.


The chest contains many of the original tools owned and used by Mr. Hilton.
Many tools are fitted into purpose-built partitions, some actually into what
might be called french-fitted recesses.  Mr. Hilton's tools were mostly marked
by him.  He had two name stamps with "J. Hilton" and in some cases he simply
stamped "JH".  For sure, not all the tools are original.  I'm relying on my old
tool experience and powers of deduction to read the price and auction labels
remaining on some of the tools.  The chest supposed contains nearly 400 tools.
Seems pretty amazing, eh?  I've not counted them and I may never do that.  There
are enough 'whatsits' in the chest to keep the list busy for a while.
Additionally there are tools missing from some of the fitted areas.  Feel free
to offer suggestions as to what is missing.  I expect I will be looking to
restock this thing for the rest of my life.


The chest is really exciting and I'm happy to be its new conservator.  Folks
that know me know I'm usually aiming for bright and shiny in my tool pursuits,
NIB or contemporary maker's.  This is a significant departure from the usual.
Enough blather, grab a beverage.  This is pretty long.



Here's the elusive key:  

http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-052.JPG


Fancy key and a keyhole that looks like it was made by a woodpecker; no
escutcheon.  The lid will not slam shut.  It makes a very satisfying pneumatic
whoosh when it closes. Here are a couple sketches of the layout to aid in
following the pictures.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-050.jpg
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-051.jpg


When the lid is opened there is no fancy cabinet work to impress customers.
Just simple, compact, sturdy, dovetailed cabinet work intended to hold a working
set of tools.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-053.JPG


This is the latch for the saw till.  It is interesting because Mr. Hilton only
used this latch in one place.  He used a winged affair in other places.  Just
wondering why.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-054.JPG


The saw till contains five saws, ebony and rosewood handled try and miter
squares, and a couple 2-foot shrink rules.  The saws are not original to the too
chest, the other things are:
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-055.JPG


The panel that covers the saw till has two hinged sections, no apparent reason,
but opening it further back reveals some marking/carving knives, some rules and
that funny wooden thing that I can't remember its function.  The squares all go
in fitted compartments in the front:
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-056.JPG


Till #1 has mostly machinist tools and is the most elaborately fitted area in
the chest.  The two tools sitting in front were in that till but are not
appropriate to it.  There are two close-up pictures of the contents.  Feel free
to suggest tools for the empty recesses.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-057.JPG
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-058.JPG
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-059.JPG


This is a ring pull that is used to move the tilt out front section and the
sliding tills.  Clever design I've not seen before.  It is very sturdy and yet
closes flush to the surface, leaving no projection.  There were a few fingers
mashed at the auction as folks tried to close the front without using the ring.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-060.JPG


With the front section tipped out, you are looking down on a section that holds
chisels;  a set of 12 W. Butcher gouges.  What is missing from the right end of
this till?

http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-061.JPG



The latch for the lid is different from the one on the saw till. One end of the
wing-thing has been filed off so it fits under the brass plate to hold the lid
closed.   It just strikes me as curious since the latch for the saw till seems
more purpose-built for this application.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-062.JPG


Looking at the back of the tilted front section, there are 3 drawers and drop
down panel.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-063.JPG


The three drawers contain chisels by Ward.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-064.JPG


The drop down panel reveals an empty cubby that was probably designed to hold
one or more levels.  There is also a framed opening in the end of the tilting
section that may also be for more levels.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-065.JPG
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-066.JPG


Under, or behind, the tilting section are 11 side beads by Ames of London, and a
set numbered hollows and rounds by Union Factory (numbers 4 through 24).  These
are in fine condition, with a couple that do not appear used at all.  All nicely
stamped by Mr. Hilton.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-067.JPG


Till #2 has 10 drawers in it.  The drawer contents including cabinet scrapers, a
set of plow irons, sharpening stones, pinch dogs, several blocks of wax, gimlets
for a brace, wooden pattern pieces, and templates.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-068.JPG


The top section of till #2 contains a wooden brace and all the boring/drilling
bits you could imagine.  Many are original to the chest in their fitted
sections, many are probably not.  In this picture two stacking units are sitting
in front of the till.  There are couple handles, one with a jewelers screw
driver, some missing their business ends, a metal tool holder and another
unidentified gizmo.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-069.JPG


Till #3 has more chisels by Buck and Ward.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-072.JPG


Till #4 has spoke shaves (2 with one handle removed), a router with no blade,
chisels, a tool holder with one tool, a tiny brass core box or grooving plane, a
compass and a couple cabinet latches.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-073.JPG


Till #5 has ultimatum style marking and mortise gauges, 2 small anvils, small
brass and iron planes, more chisels, 2 small saws, a compass, a Stanley #57
spoke shave (at least part of it), and a circle or leather cutter for a brace,

http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-070.JPG


Under the sliding tills are a plow plane, a router, scraper plane, 2 small
coffin smoothers, and a pile of wooden clamps.
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-071.JPG


Hope you enjoyed the show.  Now to see if AOL will let me send this today.



-- 
Bill W.
Nottingham, PA
Woodworkers visit me at http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/
265571 Dwight Beebe <dwb1124@g...> 2018‑03‑27 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Unbelievable, Bill!  What a find!  Thank you for posting those photos.
Looking forward to hearing more about this incredible find and those
tools.  Wow!
265572 CheekyGeek <cheekygeek@g...> 2018‑03‑27 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Stunning, Bill. Thanks for sharing!

The only thing I don't understand is WHY you didn't tell us about it when
it was active on Bud Brown's auction site.
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Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska
265573 Claudio DeLorenzi <claudio@d...> 2018‑03‑27 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
That looks outstanding!   Congratulations.
Hopefully you will now undertake your caretaker responsibility
seriously...to preserve this great box and contents, and to keep everything
...together.
So many of these have been parted out and sold piece by piece...
Cheers
Claudio
265574 "Adam R. Maxwell" <amaxwell@m...> 2018‑03‑28 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 09:43 , Bill Webber  wrote:
> 
> Hope you enjoyed the show.  Now to see if AOL will let me send this today.

Incredible find, and good on you for preserving it. I must admit, the proximity
to April 1 had me pretty skeptical about your original post, and I figured we
were being set up again.

-- 
Adam
Benton City, WA
265575 Dragon List <dragon01list@g...> 2018‑03‑28 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
adam, i was reaching for that april 1 bowl of nuts as well.

pretty incredible, mr. webber.  that's one hell of a box of tools.
congratulations!

best,
bill
felton, ca
just say i thought about saying "you suck" about this one
265576 "Andrew B." <andrew.bouland@g...> 2018‑03‑28 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Bill finds a treasure chest:


Fantastic find!  In my dreams I will one day make something like this to
house some of my more cherished finds but will be some time before I get
there.  Still looking through it all - thanks for sharing.
In the photos of till #1: below the combination square there are two empty
spaces which I assume would be home to a large and medium sized pair of
wing dividers.  Would have expected maybe a 12" rule to go with the combo
set.  Lower right empty spot below trammels am guessing is just a larger
fixed steel square.  Might have expected to see a depth gauge of some sort
but don't see an obvious home for one.

Really neat find!
Andrew
265588 Paul Gardner <yoyopg@g...> 2018‑03‑29 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Well it is early days Bill but this has all the prerequisites to be the
"most exciting" post of the year in my book.  Jeepers, what a box!  And
some really interesting and beautiful tools in there as well.  I'd love to
see a video tour on YouTube of this if the inclination ever stirs.  I have
to think that Mr. Hilton would have been delighted that it ended up in your
hands.  Congratulations on this acquisition and wishing you many happy
hours figuring out its mysteries.

Paul Gardner, in SF
265600 Bill Webber <ol2lrus@v...> 2018‑03‑30 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Hi Paul,

Thanks for looking.  This is the first real chest with real tools I have 
ever seen.  Perhaps I haven't been paying attention, but the usual is a 
box with pipe cut-offs and a few wrenches advertised as all-original.  
I'm really pleased to have been able to find this one.  I'm not into you 
tube, so a video is not going to happen.  Thanks for your awards.

Bill W.
Nottingham, PA
Woodworkers visit me athttp://billwebber.galootcentral.com/
265603 Claudio DeLorenzi <admin@d...> 2018‑03‑30 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Hey Bill
What about a video uploaded to a Gmail account, or a free Dropbox account,
and shared amongst ourselves?
Cheers
Claudio
265604 <ecoyle@t...> 2018‑03‑30 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Bill this is indeed to me at least the  picture/slide-show of the year

Congrats and enjoy

Is the actual chest a 6-board chest (no lamnated panels) as well it may be given
it’s age

Eric in Calgary
265608 Bill Webber <ol2lrus@v...> 2018‑03‑30 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Hi Eric,
No it is not a 6-board chest.  The top and sides are frame and panel.  You can
see the panels on the inside of the lid. On the outside they are tightly joined
and flush so the panels don't show. Compare the two pictures. The front and back
are just boards, no panels

http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-049.JPG
http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1803-053.JPG

Bill W.
Nottingham, PA
Woodworkers visit me at http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/

On 3/29/2018 11:34 PM, ecoyle@t... wrote:

  
Bill this is indeed to me at least the  picture/slide-show of the year

Congrats and enjoy

Is the actual chest a 6-board chest (no lamnated panels) as well it may be given
it’s age

Eric in Calgary
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265625 Bruce Zenge <brucensherry@g...> 2018‑04‑02 Re: JOBOX, the picture show
Andrew,
You made the comment "I will one day make something like this".  Take
it from a guy that got smacked with age you need to get on with the
want to do list while still working on the must do list.  Time and age
and physical problems get in the way of doing those neat projects much
sooner than you can ever imagine.  Don't wait, just do it.
Happy Easter to all!
Bruce Z.
Des Moines, I

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