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265323 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2018‑03‑09 | 60-1/2 |
I sent this to Tom Conroy and he suggested that everyone might appreciate it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/38890586120/in/dateposted-public/ Left one with machined knob (instead of the earlier cast knob), rectangle logo, and number on side has a full 13/16” bed Center one with machined knob, rectangle logo, and number on side had a “U” shaped bed - machined 1/4” across the throat but then two machined legs in the same plane up each cheek that hold the sides of the blade Right one with machined knob, rectangle logo, and NO number on side had a small bed - this one was obviously a 1980’s/90’s tool with the big slots in the blade and the chunky, unrefined castings - notice the non-machined edges on the cheeks and on the cap. This later plane has a different depth adjusting mechanism. And here are a couple of others in the family: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/40701228901/in/dateposted-public/ Left one is a rarely seen 60 - same as a 60-1/2 except with nickel plated mouth knob and cap. This one has the cast depth knob, no number on side, and a sweetheart blade. Has a 13/16” bed like the 60-1/2 above. Lovely little plane that seems much more delicate than a 60-1/2 although it is essentially the same. Center one is the even more rarely seen 61 - same as the 60-1/2 except for non- adjutable mouth and wooden knob, cast depth knob, no number on side, and a sweetheart blade. Has a 3/4" bed - less than the 60 above. Right one is a 65 - cast depth knob, knuckle joint cap, no number on side, and a sweetheart blade. Has a 13/16” bed. This is one of my users. Ed Minch |
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265339 | Thomas Conroy | 2018‑03‑10 | Re: 60-1/2 |
Ed Minch wrote: "And here are a couple of others in the family: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/40701228901/in/dateposted-public/ "....Right one is a 65 - cast depth knob, knuckle joint cap, no number on side, and a sweetheart blade. Has a 13/16? bed. This is one of my users." The # 65 is one of my favorites; I like the low angle and I like the knuckle cap. I do like the original style knuckle cap, found only on the #18, even better, though. This is one more thing that Patrick got snarky about. Getting the old style cap on has a little counterintuitive moment, where you have to push forward as well as down, but once I figured that out I haven't had any problem with its coming loose. I had more trouble learning to put on the new style knuckle caps. The old style seems to fit my hand even better and I like its simplicity. Only....the #65, like almost all Stanley's block planes, is a shade wider then I like. What I really want is a #60-1/2 with a knuckle-joint lever cap. And that's not going to happen. Even if there is one of them out there it would be so rare I wouldn't dare to use it. Tom Conroy Berkeley |
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265341 | William Ghio <bghio@m...> | 2018‑03‑10 | Re: 60-1/2 |
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:54 PM, Ed Minch |
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265352 | Chuck Taylor | 2018‑03‑11 | Re: 60-1/2 |
Gentle Galoots, Today was a PNTC* meeting day, and I went looking for block planes with the longer/wider bed. One that I came home with was a Stanley #60-1/2. After sharpening it up I ran some side-by-side tests with my other low-angle block planes including a black 1990s Made-in-England model that I remember buying new in a big-box store, a maroon Stanley #60-1/2, and another black one that looks just like a Stanley #60-1/2 but has no markings on it whatsoever. Maybe a clone? All but the most-recent-acquisition have the narrower bed. Perhaps my most-recent acquisition needs a bit more fettling, but so far my favorite of the 4 is the 1990s Made-In-England version. But then I have replaced its original iron with a Hock iron. Perhaps the extra thickness and overall quality of the Hock iron make up for the narrower bed support of the plane? Having said that, none of them performs as well as my Veritas Low Angle Block Plane with a PM-V11 iron. I picked that up in a Lee Valley store on a trip to Vancouver, BC last year. Visiting a Lee Valley Store in person is quite an experience, as I'm sure our Canadian bretheren will attest. Highly recommended. Fortunately I live not far south of the Canadian border. I looked at a Stanley #65 with the knuckle-joint cap, and that got me to thinking that I needed a block plane with a knuckle-joint cap. The #65 was in good condition and fairly priced, but I didn't want to spend that much. I ended up buying a Stanley #19, like a Stanley #18 but a bit longer (7" vs. 6" in length). The #19 just felt better in my hand than the #18 right next to it on the dealer's table. When I want a smaller plane I can just reach for a #60-1/2. I'm thinking about turning one of my standard-bed-angle block planes into a small smoother for difficult grain by regrinding the bevel of the iron to 30 degrees. That would give me a York pitch cutting angle (20 degree bed angle + 30 degree bevel). Anybody tried that? Chuck Taylor north of Seattle * PNTC = Pacific Northwest Tool Collectors |
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265356 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2018‑03‑11 | Re: 60-1/2 |
On 2018-03-10 9:14 PM, Chuck Taylor via OldTools wrote: > I'm thinking about turning one of my standard-bed-angle block planes into a small smoother for difficult grain by regrinding the bevel of the iron to 30 degrees. That would give me a York pitch cutting angle (20 degree bed angle + 30 degree bevel). Anybody tried that? No, haven't. But maybe try honing a 30 deg microbevel on it first before regrinding. Maybe you won't like it, and you'll have wasted very little. Or maybe it will be so sweet you won't bother regrinding. Either way, you save steel! Don -- "You can tell a man that boozes by the company he chooses" The Famous Pig Song, Clarke Van Ness The harder they come, the bigger they fall." Ry Cooder |
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265359 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2018‑03‑11 | Re: 60-1/2 |
I read that grinding at 45° produces a very high pitch which was supposed tp be good for obstinate grain. One area the author used it was in slightly chamfering edges and he claimed it did not raise any hangers-on. I ground one up and am still having a little trouble making it do exactly what he said, but I can see the potential. Ed Minch |
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265425 | bridger@b... | 2018‑03‑14 | Re: 60-1/2 |
sounds like something Rob Lee should hear. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Conroy via OldTools" |
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265452 | james rich <jameslrich3@g...> | 2018‑03‑16 | Re: 60-1/2 |
Rob now hears everything we say and think! |
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