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219761 | John Junkroski <jpjunk@m...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Razor blades and planing |
On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Bill Taggert wrote: > I don't know anyone who would advocate trying to plane a board with a > razor blade. I'm almost sure that somewhere in my coll..... barn/shop/rural slum there is a tiny plane, commercially made, painted bright red if memory serves, which I found at a farm/yard/garage sale for a dime. It appears to be designed to use a double-edge shaving blade.Long live KIng Gillette . If the heat index is below 105 tomorrow, I'll go out there and look for it. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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219765 | Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
The idea hasn't died yet http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=56750&cat=1,41182 On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Frank Sronce |
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219766 | Joe <jem1098@p...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
I've got one, maybe two razor planes. My excuse for lack of pics is that it's raining coyotes and jackrabbits right now, but once it lets up I'll go out to the shop and find them. I don't think mine are painted red though - I think they're a dull gray. Joe M. On 7/24/2011 12:28 AM, John Junkroski wrote: > If the heat index is below 105 tomorrow, I'll go out there and look > for it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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219763 | "Ken Vaughn" <kvaughn65@c...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
There used to be a regular at the Woodworking Shows who demonstrated a Swiss(?) plane which used disposable double edge blades, but much thicker than standard shaving blades. I believe the plane was called a Rali. The pitch man was very entertaining, I watched his show each year and probably could have repeated it, right down to the part about "how many Budweiser's it would take to finish this board". Never had any desire to own one, however. Ken Vaughn ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Junkroski" |
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219768 | James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
Yes, I also have one of those. I haven't been able to find any double edge razor blades so I can try it though. Are there still double edge blades being made? On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:28 AM, John Junkroski wrote: > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Bill Taggert wrote: > >> I don't know anyone who would advocate >> trying to plane a board with a razor blade. > > > I'm almost sure that somewhere in my coll..... barn/shop/rural slum there is a tiny plane, commercially made, painted bright red if memory serves, which I f ound at a farm/yard/garage sale for a dime. > > It appears to be designed to use a double-edge shaving blade. > Long live KIng Gillette . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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219769 | James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
I sent that before I clicked on the link to Lee Valley, where they do sell the b lades. On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:49 AM, James Thompson wrote: > > Yes, I also have one of those. I haven't been able to find any double edge r azor blades so I can try it though. Are there still double edge blades being mad e? > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:28 AM, John Junkroski wrote: > >> >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Bill Taggert wrote: >> >>> I don't know anyone who would advocate >>> trying to plane a board with a razor blade. >> >> >> I'm almost sure that somewhere in my coll..... barn/shop/rural slum there is a tiny plane, commercially made, painted bright red if memory serves, which I found at a farm/yard/garage sale for a dime. >> >> It appears to be designed to use a double-edge shaving blade. >> Long live KIng Gillette . > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > http://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > > OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/archive/ > > OldTools@r... > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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219764 | "Frank Sronce" <dilloworks@s...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
John, Did it look something like this Raza-Plane? http://www.flickr.com/photos/galoot_frank/1624654074/ I've had this one for a long time. For some reason, I always thought it might have been British. At least, I have never found a U. S. blade to fit it properly. It is well made heavy cast iron. It is 3-5/8" long and 2" wide. I have some other razor planes, but they are all cheaply made pot metal. BTW, if you are somewhere that you think is hot, I'll mention that today will be our 23rd straight day of 100+ degree weather. The 7-day forecast doesn't show any break coming. Oh how I would love a nice cool 99 degree day for a change. Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Junkroski" |
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219770 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
>From everything we know about planes, as a general rule, a nice hefty/stiff iron with a very sharp edge is desired. As a result, one would think a thin little razor blade would not work well for anything other than the thinest of shaving operations. I do have a little tool that I kept from back in my automotive days that uses a common single edge razor blade that come in handy from time to time. It's original purpose was as a gasket scraper. More acurately, it would be used in a low angle paring position to cut the remaining gasket and/or adhesive from a machined surface. With a fresh blade it excelled at this operation. In woodworking, I occasionally find it usefule as well. It can b effective for essentially planing a run in a finish or some dust bumps in a finish, if used carefully. Also, held in the positon of a scraper, it makes a handy little detail scraper for gettinginto tight spots. Doc John Holladay docholladay0820@g... 205-229-8484 On Jul 24, 2011 8:54 AM, "James Thompson" |
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219771 | "Frank Sronce" <dilloworks@s...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
I know the ones from my Norelco shaver don't work. Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works) ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Thompson" |
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219775 | Steve Jones <stjones@k...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
GGs; This is slightly off-thread because Rali planes don't use conventional (thin) razor blades; they use HSS and tungsten carbide blades made for the purpose. They are available on Amazon - a rough equivalent to a #3 goes for about $180. Google will show you all sorts of links; here's a old, undated review:http://www.handplane.com/14/rali-planes-a-new-gener ation-of- hand-plane/ The fact that they've lasted this long (at least 15-20 years) at those prices says something - not sure what. I did have a friend years ago who was making the transition from power to hand tools (mostly violins and banjos) who had one. He seemed to like it OK. Don't have one, don't want one, don't want to use one. Just providing some additional data points. Steve aKg On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Ken Vaughn |
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219782 | "Frank Sronce" <dilloworks@s...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
Steve, I bought one of their block planes about 30 years ago. I probably haven't used it in the last 25 or so years. Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jones" |
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219762 | Philip Yarra <philip.yarra@i...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
John Junkroski mentioned a plane that uses a razor blade... I believe some generous soul donated one similar to Peter McBride, purely for laughs. Why yes, here's a picture: http://www.petermcbride.com/magnum09/img/magnum_058.jpg I'm pretty sure it hasn't quite made it to the top shelf of Peter's collection just yet :-) Regards, Philip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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219804 | John Junkroski <jpjunk@m...> | 2011‑07‑24 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
An unprecedented occurrence, the planets must be in alignment.... I went out to the barn and found the razor blade plane in the first drawer I opened. Bloody amazing. In fact I found two, both of which claim to be useful for straight and curved work. One lists warped doors, dresser drawers, fine work on boats, paintscraper, cabinet makers, model makers, pattern makers, tradesmen, handymen, hobbyists and housewives. What an amazing tool! Why would anyone ever want another plane? I posted pics on Galoot Image Central under jonjunk. On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, oldtools-request@r... wrote: >>> Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:28:38 -0500 From: John Junkroski > |
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219858 | Thomas Conroy <booktoolcutter@y...> | 2011‑07‑25 | Re: Razor blades and planing |
O Galoots I have three planes that take double-edged razor blades, from two makers in two designs, neither of which has been shown yet. There is some discussion of them in this link http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t including a further link to instructions on how to make your own out of wood, and about a third of the way down there is a bunch of photos of different types. Mine are a curved-sided Little Giant (I agree with someone in the link, this is best of the lot, or at least the best I have handled) and two Wilkros. The blades of the Wilkros stick out to the sides and cut your fingers when you try to hold them (just the sides of the blades, not the edges, but that is enough) so I suspect that fifty or eighty years ago razor blades were narrower (had shorter edges, I mean... I mean, the long dimension was shorter). All mine are bare, now rather oxidized, aluminum. I've also seen the Little Giant with a thin blue coating, more like anodization than paint. They aren't uncommon in hand binderies, bought with the idea of using them to pare leather, almost always ending up in the box of totally useless junk. The problem is that there is no way to adjust the depth of cut. I do know one good binder who used one for paring leather for a while, but eventually she learned to sharpen and shifted to a spokeshave. They must have been popular, though, because there are so many around, and a lot of the modelmakers on the linked thread clearly rely on them. Tom Conroy San Francisco ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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