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68058 Paul Fuss <fuss_em@h...> 1999‑09‑14 Re: I'd like a date
Dave Weisbord wrote:
>As far a I know Norton only used the Pike logo on its Arkansas
>and Washita stones after it purchased Pike. I do not believe it
>used the Pike logo on its India or Chrystolon stones.
 
>Typically, when the stone and box don't match, its the stone
>that' been replaced. In your case, the stone may be older than
>the box.

Dan Indrigo replies:
>It's definitely a combination stone with one side being a very dark
>gray, this is the side with the logo, and the other side a very dark
>red  with no markings at all. could it be that they were just using up
>old pike stock in new boxes after they bought pike?

I would say both are possibilities, even if the mismatch may be
more probable.  I have a 1933 Pike booklet that lists the manmade
India oilstones (including combination hones) among their offerings,
and the illustration shows that the stone as well as the box have
only the Pike logo on them.  And there are ample references elsewhere
in this booklet to their affiliation with Norton and Behr-Manning.
(Norton acquired 100% ownership of Pike in 1932, though they had
various relationships since 1897, and Norton merged with Behr-Manning
in 1931.)  So the stone itself was not necessarily made before
1932, though certainly the box was made after this date.  Also,
while Dan doesn't spell this out, I would bet that the box label
has the Pike logo above where it says "Reg US Patent Off".  And
if Norton had stopped using the Pike logo on their artificial
stones as Dave W. suggests, it probably happened sometime later on.
I have a newer India oilstone as well as a more recent pamphlet
that only says "Norton Abrasives" with no reference to the other
two companies.

FWIW,
Paul Fuss



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