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68026 | Dan Indrigo <dindrigo@h...> | 1999‑09‑13 | I'd like a date |
for the Norton combination stone I picked up in the supposedly rust free zone called california. The cardboard box has a silvery gray and black background pattern made up of triangles with every other triangle containing an N. The label is two tone green and says " NORTON ABRASIVES COMBINATION HONE REG U.S. PAT. OFF. MADE IN U.S.A. BEHR-MANNING, TROY, N.Y.,U.S.A (DIVISION OF NORTON COMPANY)" The stone itself has an logo impressed in it but it's a pike logo. It's a recessed square with the word "PIKE" in the middle. The I in pike actually is part of a much larger P that has a pike swimming through the P. I don't know for a fact if norton bought pike but this stone fits this box perfectly so I assume that is the case. So what can you tell me about this stone. Thanks Dan |
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68030 | Dave Weisbord <davewe@w...> | 1999‑09‑13 | Re: I'd like a date |
Dave Weisbord wrote: > Dan Indrigo wrote: > > > for the Norton combination stone I picked up in the supposedly rust free > > zone called california. The cardboard box has a silvery gray and black > > background pattern made up of triangles with every other triangle > > containing an N. The label is two tone green and says > > > > " NORTON ABRASIVES > > COMBINATION HONE > > REG U.S. PAT. OFF. MADE IN U.S.A. > > BEHR-MANNING, TROY, N.Y.,U.S.A (DIVISION OF NORTON COMPANY)" > > > > The stone itself has an logo impressed in it but it's a pike logo. It's > > a recessed square with the word "PIKE" in the middle. The I in pike > > actually is part of a much larger P that has a pike swimming through the > > P. I don't know for a fact if norton bought pike but this stone fits > > this box perfectly so I assume that is the case. So what can you tell me > > about this stone. > > Here's what I know regarding Norton. > > First, the box. Behr-Manning has been a Division of Norton since the 30's. > I have a '35 Norton Abrasives catalog which already has the Behr-Manning > name. The triangle patterns on the box was used in the '30s and '40s. Don't > know the exact year it ended, but I have a Norton catalog from '47 which > still shows that pattern on the boxes. > > As to the stone - here's the best news. I don't believe its a combination > stone. As far a I know Norton only used the Pike logo on its Arkansas and > Washita stones after it purchased Pike. I do not believe it used the Pike > logo on its India or Chrystolon stones. Therefore this stone is most likely > an Arkansas stone - either a genuine Pike or a Norton after they took over > Pike. Can you describe the label on the stone in more detail. If its a > Norton and matches the box it should have Norton Abrasives and Behr-Manning > on it, as well as the Pike logo. Typically, when the stone and box don't > match, its the stone that' been replaced. In your case, the stone may be > older than the box. > > So, in all likelihood the stone is not original to the box, but is > potentially better. > > Dave |
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68034 | Dan Indrigo <dindrigo@h...> | 1999‑09‑13 | Re: I'd like a date |
> Dave Weisbord wrote: > > > Dan Indrigo wrote: > > > > > for the Norton combination stone I picked up in the supposedly rust free |
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68058 | Paul Fuss <fuss_em@h...> | 1999‑09‑14 | Re: I'd like a date |
Dave Weisbord wrote: >As far a I know Norton only used the Pike logo on its Arkansas >and Washita stones after it purchased Pike. I do not believe it >used the Pike logo on its India or Chrystolon stones. |
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