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272607 Pete 2021‑01‑18 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
Bill, Herbert Keane's book "Restoring Antique Tools" published by (I think)
Astragal Press a few years ago might have some suggestions for you. Scott
Grandstaff, too, might have some experience!
Pete LeenhoutsOlympic Peninsula (not raining
today!)--------------------------------------------------

I've been working on a level for my Hilton tool chest and while the 
mechanics involved are not too challenging, I have no knowledge of how 
to blend old and new parts to get an acceptable appearance.  I'm torn 
between making something too new and something too faked.  I'll do my 
best to please me; no profit involved either way.


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272608 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2021‑01‑18 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
Pete

Are you saying Scott “might” have experience???

Ed Minch
272609 Bill Webber 2021‑01‑19 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
Thanks, Pete, I ordered a copy.

As far as the level goes, pardon my grousing.  The wood for the level is 
new, as are the end caps and the inset trim rings for the levels.  The 
level vials and hardware are from a Stanley #30 that spent a lot of its 
life under water; they are pretty shiny now.  The level will fill a slot 
in the Hilton chest just to show what was in it.  I see no benefit to 
antiquing this particular piece.  Like I said, just grousing.  Thanks 
for the info on the book,

Bill W.
Nottingham, PA
Woodworkers visit me at http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/
272611 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2021‑01‑19 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
Here is a classic Antiques Roadshow tale if I ever saw one.

  We open with our hapless patron standing next to a brilliantly 
restored Philadelphia Chippendale highboy. The breathtaking highboy is 
literally gleaming in the studio lights.

  Cue the Kano Bros
  If you hadn't refinished this it would be worth $250,0000

  Patron, standing there after being berated on national television,
but now off camera

    What if there was a missing leg and 6 of the drawers were busted to 
Christmas. All of the hardware was gone, 1/2 the trim was gone, 1/2 the 
bonnet was missing, and the whole thing had 2 gloppy drippy coats of 
"antique" Hobby Lobby paint / glaze, with sprinkles?
It was in the back of a pickup truck under piled cinderblocks on its way 
to the dump.

  How much was it worth if I hadn't refinished it?............... Jackass??

    Bill, what you have here is a broken wreck of a plane that someone 
did their best to put into
any sort of completeness.
  The pitted skate would have never been found on a recently polished 
brass frame.
  The remaining wood tote is possibly repaired original, but not 
terribly accurately done.

  So, as far as "collector original" I doubt there would be very many 
stepping up to pay the big bucks for it.
   What that means is, I would say to get to do anything you want.

You can redo the bridle fence configuration if that appeals to you.
  or
  If you wanted to, get some boxwood and make new screws/nuts and fence,
  or
  what I think would be even better, a stash of ebony or creamy rich 
Indian Rosewood, and replace all of the wood on the plane.

  Make a new skate while you are at it. This one is toast.

   You can gently repolish the brass and give it a coat of liver of 
sulfur (cold gun blue or instant patina from the glass shops, same 
thing)  then gently hand polish it until its unevenly less dark with a 
bit of yellow showing at the high points.
   The rosewood will age pretty quickly on its own with nothing but a 
coat of linseed oil (well wiped after) and set in a wide window sill for 
a few months
(keep it away from sweaty glass and rotate it occasionally)

    It could be a real tool you could enjoy owning. Not antique but 
based on an antique and damn beautiful.
  Who cares what anyone else thinks.

Just my own opinion though. Anyone is free to have another
   yours scott

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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
272612 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2021‑01‑19 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
Just for reference, this was in the exact condition I described only 
there was more than a pile of cinderblocks on it. There was also brush 
and dirt, household garbage and broken pieces of cement

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/bureau3.jpg
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/bureau.jpg

yours again scott


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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
272614 Pete 2021‑01‑19 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
He might! (laughing)

PeteOlympic Peninsula still not raining - cloudy,
though---------------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Minch 
To: Peter M Leenhouts 
Cc: Old Tools 
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable
Appearance

Pete
Are you saying Scott “might” have experience???
Ed Minch


On Jan 18, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Pete via OldTools  wrote:
Bill, Herbert Keane's book "Restoring Antique Tools" published by (I think)
Astragal Press a few years ago might have some suggestions for you. Scott
Grandstaff, too, might have some experience!
Pete LeenhoutsOlympic Peninsula (not raining today!)-------------
272615 Thomas Fink 2021‑01‑19 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
The grain on the side panels looks like growing leaves.  Beautiful.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: scott grandstaff
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 10:35 PM
To: oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable
Appearance

Just for reference, this was in the exact condition I described only 
there was more than a pile of cinderblocks on it. There was also brush 
and dirt, household garbage and broken pieces of cement

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/bureau3.jpg
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/bureau.jpg

yours again scott


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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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272616 Mike Lietzow <mike.lietzow@g...> 2021‑01‑20 Re: Blending Old and New Parts to Get An Acceptable Appearance
GGs,

Mr. Minch asks:
>Are you saying Scott 'might' have experience???"

I think the phrase "better than new" was invented specifically to describe
Scott's restorations.

Cheers!

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