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270495 | "dks@t..." <dks@t...> | 2020‑04‑15 | tool storage |
I sent this earlier, but it didn't seem to get through... So unlike Eric, who's finishing far too many little projects now that he's confined to quarters, I have been making only a wee bit of progress on storing/displaying and generally making accessible some of the tools which I use most often, attempting in my own unsophisticated way, to replicate the wall-hung panels that were illustrated in FWW not so long ago. This was occasioned by my deciding to shift EVERYTHING accumulated over the past 30 odd years from one end of the basement to the other about 16 mos. ago..., in order to gain some natural daylight in the cave. Anyway, suffice to say, progress has been made at galoot- worthy speed, but I'm always on the lookout for new, interesting ways to store and display tools. As result, I was distracted by the many workshop photos that Claudio D. has posted on the google. In addition to his many completed projects ( about which we should speak ), I was particularly taken by two things 1. the way in which Claudio mounted his cabinet screwdrivers on a simple angled bracket, in contrast to the more common horizontal strip, and 2. the brackets in which Claudio's many chisels are suspended. It appears the brackets were constructed of many little pieces held together by dowels rather than the more common arrangement of holes with slots. So I was wondering if those were his own ideas, and also whether he was happy with those particular features? And then I thought it might also be interesting to hear from others about storage methods/arrangements which they considered successful or unsuccessful - and why? Don |
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270496 | Claudio DeLorenzi <claudio@d...> | 2020‑04‑15 | Re: tool storage |
Hi Don Thanks Don! I just cut slots in a strip of walnut, but I broke some along the short grain, hence the dowels. The best spacing I found was 1 ⅛” for most (except for the larger handles I made which needed 1 1/4” spacing). The easiest way I found to do this was to space out the holes I wanted, and then to FIRST place some dowels into the board for reinforcement, then plane everything down nice, then to drill the holes and cut the slots etc. I found that this allowed the tools to sit and not fall out of the slot as I moved the hinged frames or door panels. The saw slots alone didn’t work very well, since things tended to tip over. A 3/8” deep forstner hole (ie flat bottomed) provided some nice support so the ferrules could sit into the board and not tip over or fall out. On some I drilled right through the board (to fit the entire ferrule, ie a through hole) and just cut a slot through the middle. Slots are better than holes; Easy tool removal this way—. I could lift the tool a half inch or so, and pull the tool straight out. I didn’t want closed holes that require a ton of space to pull the tool straight up. As far as the cabinet is concerned, I don’t remember, but I probably copied it from a photo. The tool hanging ideas I have come up on my own but the angled hanging screwdrivers came from Studley chest. I am also using magnets to hold some of the things in place. Cheers Claudio |
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270497 | Bill Ghio | 2020‑04‑15 | Re: tool storage |
> On Apr 14, 2020, at 10:12 PM, dks@t... wrote: > > I was particularly taken by two things > . > . > 2. the brackets in which Claudio's many chisels are suspended. It appears the brackets were constructed of many little pieces held together by dowels rather than the more common arrangement of holes with slots. > > So I was wondering if those were his own ideas, and also whether he was happy with those particular features? > > And then I thought it might also be interesting to hear from others about storage methods/arrangements which they considered successful or unsuccessful - and why? I built my hanging tool cabinet about 25 years ago and for the paring chisels made a rack like Claudio’s. Simple to do and effective. Mine is in Poplar and a tad shy of 1/2” thick (I was probably working in metric and just didn’t know it). I have had no problem w/ short grain breakage. On the other door I simply put holes in the rack and drop the various narrow chisels (1/4, 1/8, skews) and drawbore pins in. Cabinet: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49776950156/in/dateposted/ Chisel rack: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777279357/in /photostream/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777279357/in/photos tream/ Smalls rack: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49776950736/in /photostream/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49776950736/in/photos tream/ (OMG, looking at this photo I just found a missing tool!) The tool cabinet has been shown here before. Here an album of it I made about ten years ago: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../albums/72157632538860794/wi th/8386090585/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../albums/7215763253886 0794/with/8386090585/ I used to have a bench w/ a tool tray and I liked having the tool tray to hold lots of small stuff, but it often got in the way. When I built my new bench, I missed the tool tray so I made a narrow bench that sits behind me. Easy to reach back to grab the marking and measuring stuff & etc. Since no work takes place there, it accumulates lots of detritus. But it also holds a rack of bench chisels. Table: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777279777/in/photostream/ Chisel rack: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777279642/in /photostream/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777279642/in/photos tream/ For this rack I pierced the board w/ holes then reamed the hols lightly w/ my tapered reamer to provide a seat for the chisel socket. Then I ripped the board in half and glued it back together w/ a spacer to gain width at the holes. This pic gives a good view of the spacer: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7728 0442@N.../49777279542/in/photostream/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N. ../49777279542/in/photostream/ At the back of the table is a strip of tool slots to hold various squares and/or chisels. This rack has projections on the bottom that drop into slots to keep it from tipping. The projecting bits are on a pivot so that if I want to carry the rack somehere they can be rotated out of the way and it will sit flat. Originally it was a single row but as I added chisels to the set (all PEXTO) I added a second row. This pic just shows the slots: https://www.flickr.c om/photos/77280442@N.../49777279542/in/photostream/">https://www.flickr.com/phot os/77280442@N.../49777279542/in/photostream/ My Japanese chisels live in their own separate box: https://www.flickr. com/photos/77280442@N.../49776492093/in/dateposted/">https://www.flickr.com/phot os/77280442@N.../49776492093/in/dateposted/ The lid lifts off, rotate 90* and it becomes a mount for the base that puts the chisels at an angle for easy reach: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49776491903/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777354467/in/dateposted/ Bill |
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270968 | Chuck Taylor | 2020‑05‑22 | Re: tool storage |
Gentle Galoots, I was quite impressed by Bill Ghio's chisel storage rack. On Wednesday, April 15, 2020, Bill Ghio wrote: ====begin heavily snipped quote==== Chisel rack: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777279642/in/photostream/ For this rack I pierced the board w/ holes then reamed the holes lightly w/ my tapered reamer to provide a seat for the chisel socket. Then I ripped the board in half and glued it back together w/ a spacer to gain width at the holes. This pic gives a good view of the spacer: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../49777279542/in/photostream/ At the back of the table is a strip of tool slots to hold various squares and/or chisels. This rack has projections on the bottom that drop into slots to keep it from tipping. The projecting bits are on a pivot so that if I want to carry the rack somewhere they can be rotated out of the way and it will sit flat. Originally it was a single row but as I added chisels to the set (all PEXTO) I added a second row. ====end heavily snipped quote==== That looked like something I would like to have in my shop, so I set about making a similar rack: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nuyow49h2l1jspu/ChiselRack1.jpg?dl=0 Bill showed off some nice PEXTO chisels in his rack. What you see in my rack is my working set of relatively modern European bevel-edge chisels. The one exception is the Stanley socket chisel on the far right whose business end I reground to fit in the corners of dovetail sockets. The 1/8" chisel is a Mathieson. The others are French (Stanley Goldenberg), and German (MHG and Herba). I picked up the 12mm Stanley Goldenberg at a PNTC meeting and liked it so well I built a harlequin set of similar chisels. (Consider this a WTB for other sizes of Stanley Goldenberg and MHG chisels.) Bill put his rack in slots at the back of a work table behind his workbench. I decided to put mine at the back of my main workbench, so I fastened a full- length (8') apron to the back of my bench with 3/8" spacers. It is easily removable when it gets in the way. Other things fit in the slots too. The back view of the rack shows the pivoting tabs that fit into the slots: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6zo98nyhqqclieg/ChiselRack2.jpg?dl=0 Notice that there are also a couple of iron straps on the back of the rack. That is so that I can store the rack and its contents on a magnetic strip on the shop wall along with some of my other chisels. https://www.dropbox.com/s/m1aqyuxth6sr7dy/ChiselRack3.jpg?dl=0 Thanks, Bill, for the inspiration! This report is a bit overdue, but I work on Galoot Standard Time. Cheers, Chuck Taylor still holed up north of Seattle, USA |
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270969 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2020‑05‑22 | Re: tool storage |
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Taylor via OldTools |
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270970 | Chuck Taylor | 2020‑05‑22 | Re: tool storage |
Ed Minch wrote: > What are those funny numbers on your chisels? 6? 16? Are they sized > like augers? What sorcery is this? It's metric sorcery, Ed! The Stanley Goldenbergs are marked 6, 12, and 18 mm on their handles. The others have their sizes etched on the blades, 5/8" and 1" for the MHGs and 10mm for the Herba. Chuck |
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270972 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2020‑05‑22 | Re: tool storage |
I think I haave a couple of Goldenberg tools down there that I picked up in Italy - any interest?? Ed |
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