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270174 Ken Wright <wizard@b...> 2020‑03‑23 WTB: 18" or longer back saw
GGG's,
When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
price for it.

Ken

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270175 Bob Page 2020‑03‑23 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Hey Ken,

I am also in Michigan (Houghton, in da U.P.)

I have a couple of nice Craftsman mitre saws in my stash. On your mitre box,
measure the distance between the bottom of the saw guides and the bed to
determine the ideal height of the saw plate. I'll then measure up my saws to see
if there is a good match.


Bob Page
In da U.P. of Michigan


On Monday, March 23, 2020, 02:36:53 PM EDT, Ken Wright  wrote: 

GGG's,
When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
price for it.

Ken
270176 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2020‑03‑23 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Ken,

Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears model
number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up an exact
replacement saw!

The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are a code
for the actual manufacturer.

Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:

http://vintag
emachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx

Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with that
manufacturer’s mitre boxes...

So, let us know the Sears model number, please.

John Ruth
In rainy Metuchen, NJ
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:

GGG's,
When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
price for it.

Ken

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270180 Ken Wright <wizard@b...> 2020‑03‑23 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
I'll take a look at the miter box, but I don't remember seeing a model
number.

On 3/23/20 3:37 PM, John Ruth wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears
> model number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up
> an exact replacement saw!  
>
> The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are
> a code for the actual manufacturer.
>
> Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:
>
> > http://vi
ntagemachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx
>
> Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with
> that manufacturer’s mitre boxes...
>
> So, let us know the Sears model number, please.
>
> John Ruth
> In rainy Metuchen, NJ
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright  <mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:
>
>> GGG's,
>> When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
>> the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
>> to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
>> only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
>> any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
>> price for it.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -- 
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270181 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Ken, 

I have a 25" back saw that is available.  It's newer.  Great Neck, I
believe.  Somebody coated it with linseed oil but that will come of
easily. 

Mike in Woodland

On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:

GGG's,
When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
price for it.

Ken

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270186 Ken Wright <wizard@b...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
On 3/23/20 6:58 PM, Ken Wright wrote:
> I'll take a look at the miter box, but I don't remember seeing a model
> number.

Well, I took a good long look, and I couldn't see any model numbers on
the miter box.  Sorry I can't provide more info.

Ken

> On 3/23/20 3:37 PM, John Ruth wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>> Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears
>> model number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up
>> an exact replacement saw!  
>>
>> The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are
>> a code for the actual manufacturer.
>>
>> Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:
>>
>> >> http://
vintagemachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx
>>
>> Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with
>> that manufacturer’s mitre boxes...
>>
>> So, let us know the Sears model number, please.
>>
>> John Ruth
>> In rainy Metuchen, NJ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright > <mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:
>>
>>> GGG's,
>>> When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
>>> the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
>>> to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
>>> only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
>>> any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
>>> price for it.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Registered Linux user #483005
>>>
>>> If you ever think international relations make sense, remember this:  
>>> because a Serb shot an Austrian in Bosnia, Germany invaded Belgium.
>>>
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270188 Bruce Zenge <brucensherry@g...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Would the color scheme help anybody identify this?  I have a Craftsman
miter box that is red and gray that I am sure was made by Millers Falls,
since I had a Millers box in the same exact configuration.  Don't know if
that would help your situation, but thought it might be a useful data point.
Bruce Z.
Des Moines, IA
270189 Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
How about a picture of the mitre box in question?
I just sold my sears craftsman with a Krome edge saw.
I purchased a new to me Stanley.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G.



-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Wright 
Date: 3/24/20 4:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

On 3/23/20 6:58 PM, Ken Wright wrote:
> I'll take a look at the miter box, but I don't remember seeing a model
> number.

Well, I took a good long look, and I couldn't see any model numbers on
the miter box.  Sorry I can't provide more info.

Ken

> On 3/23/20 3:37 PM, John Ruth wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>> Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears
>> model number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up
>> an exact replacement saw!
>>
>> The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are
>> a code for the actual manufacturer.
>>
>> Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:
>>
>> >> http://
vintagemachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx
>>
>> Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with
>> that manufacturer’s mitre boxes...
>>
>> So, let us know the Sears model number, please.
>>
>> John Ruth
>> In rainy Metuchen, NJ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright > <mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:
>>
>>> GGG's,
>>> When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
>>> the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
>>> to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
>>> only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
>>> any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
>>> price for it.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> --
>>> Registered Linux user #483005
>>>
>>> If you ever think international relations make sense, remember this:
>>> because a Serb shot an Austrian in Bosnia, Germany invaded Belgium.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage,
>>> value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of
>>> traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools.
>>>
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270190 Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Would this possibly be it?


https://1drv.ms/u/s!A
ve_yPrBMmsnpwCuAuOnTzCNGa-t

If so it was made by Hempe.


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-------- Original message --------
From: Matt Cooper 
Date: 3/24/20 5:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ken Wright , oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

How about a picture of the mitre box in question?
I just sold my sears craftsman with a Krome edge saw.
I purchased a new to me Stanley.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G.



-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Wright 
Date: 3/24/20 4:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

On 3/23/20 6:58 PM, Ken Wright wrote:
> I'll take a look at the miter box, but I don't remember seeing a model
> number.

Well, I took a good long look, and I couldn't see any model numbers on
the miter box.  Sorry I can't provide more info.

Ken

> On 3/23/20 3:37 PM, John Ruth wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>> Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears
>> model number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up
>> an exact replacement saw!
>>
>> The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are
>> a code for the actual manufacturer.
>>
>> Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:
>>
>> >> http://
vintagemachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx
>>
>> Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with
>> that manufacturer’s mitre boxes...
>>
>> So, let us know the Sears model number, please.
>>
>> John Ruth
>> In rainy Metuchen, NJ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright > <mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:
>>
>>> GGG's,
>>> When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
>>> the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
>>> to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
>>> only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
>>> any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
>>> price for it.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> --
>>> Registered Linux user #483005
>>>
>>> If you ever think international relations make sense, remember this:
>>> because a Serb shot an Austrian in Bosnia, Germany invaded Belgium.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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270191 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Craftsman used a lot of suppliers - maybe a different miter box supplier at one
point?

 Ed Minch
270192 Ken Wright <wizard@b...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
On 3/24/20 5:19 PM, Matt Cooper wrote:
> Would this possibly be it? 
>
>
> > https://1drv.ms/u
/s!Ave_yPrBMmsnpwCuAuOnTzCNGa-t
>
> If so it was made by Hempe.


Close, very close.  The yellow parts on your box are red on mine, and
mine has a small clamp to hold the workpiece.

Ken

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270193 Ken Wright <wizard@b...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
My miter box is mostly black, with a few red parts.  Like Matt Cooper's,
it has short legs holding it above the benchtop, with "Craftsman" cast
into the horizontal surface.  I hope that helps someone.

Ken

On 3/24/20 5:20 PM, Ed Minch wrote:
> Craftsman used a lot of suppliers - maybe a different miter box
> supplier at one point?
>
>  Ed Minch
>
>> On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Bruce Zenge > <mailto:brucensherry@g...>> wrote:
>>
>> Would the color scheme help anybody identify this?  I have a Craftsman
>> miter box that is red and gray that I am sure was made by Millers Falls,
>> since I had a Millers box in the same exact configuration.  Don't know if
>> that would help your situation, but thought it might be a useful data
>> point.
>> Bruce Z.
>> Des Moines, IA
>
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270194 Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> 2020‑03‑24 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
My holders were long gone when I got it. I have seen the red ones.
This one was made by Hempe.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Wright 
Date: 3/24/20 5:34 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Matt Cooper , oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw



On 3/24/20 5:19 PM, Matt Cooper wrote:
Would this possibly be it?


https://1drv.ms/u/s!A
ve_yPrBMmsnpwCuAuOnTzCNGa-t

If so it was made by Hempe.


Close, very close.  The yellow parts on your box are red on mine, and mine has a
small clamp to hold the workpiece.

Ken

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270195 Timothy J Pendleton <tpendleton@g...> 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Sometime, in the late 70s to early 80s, I bought a Craftsman miter box and saw
that looked a lot like that. Mine is gray and red with an arch on the backstop.
The part number on the miter box owners manual is 881.36305. The 4 X 22"
Kromedge back saw has a part number, in the repair parts list, as 36188 with no
prefix. Presumably, the prefix is also 881.

Hope this helps.

Tim

Hunkering down in northern NJ while contemplating the fitting of a 3M face mask
to a Medieval Plague Doctor's mask....

On March 24, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Matt Cooper  wrote:

Would this possibly be it?


https://1drv.ms/u/s!A
ve_yPrBMmsnpwCuAuOnTzCNGa-t

If so it was made by Hempe.


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G.



-------- Original message --------
From: Matt Cooper 
Date: 3/24/20 5:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ken Wright , oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

How about a picture of the mitre box in question?
I just sold my sears craftsman with a Krome edge saw.
I purchased a new to me Stanley.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G.



-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Wright 
Date: 3/24/20 4:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

On 3/23/20 6:58 PM, Ken Wright wrote:
> I'll take a look at the miter box, but I don't remember seeing a model
> number.

Well, I took a good long look, and I couldn't see any model numbers on
the miter box.  Sorry I can't provide more info.

Ken

> On 3/23/20 3:37 PM, John Ruth wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>> Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears
>> model number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up
>> an exact replacement saw!
>>
>> The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are
>> a code for the actual manufacturer.
>>
>> Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:
>>
>> >> http://
vintagemachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx
>>
>> Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with
>> that manufacturer’s mitre boxes...
>>
>> So, let us know the Sears model number, please.
>>
>> John Ruth
>> In rainy Metuchen, NJ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright > <mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:
>>
>>> GGG's,
>>> When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
>>> the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
>>> to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
>>> only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
>>> any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
>>> price for it.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> --
>>> Registered Linux user #483005
>>>
>>> If you ever think international relations make sense, remember this:
>>> because a Serb shot an Austrian in Bosnia, Germany invaded Belgium.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage,
>>> value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of
>>> traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools.
>>>
>>> To change your subscription options:
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>>>
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270196 Bill Ghio 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Timothy J Pendleton  wrote:
> 
> Hunkering down in northern NJ while contemplating the fitting of a 3M face
mask to a Medieval Plague Doctor's mask....

Somehow, this just begs for an explanation?
270197 Ken Wright <wizard@b...> 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
On the Vintage Machines list of Sears contractors, 881 is the code for
Hempe.  Even though I can't find a model number on my miter box, I'm
willing to go with the provisional identification as a Hempe.

Does anyone have any info about Hempe?  I had never heard of them until
today.

Ken
270198 Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
881 indicates it was built by Hempe, for Sears. Here is someone's page about
theirs.

http://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2015/04/craftsman-miter-box.html?
m=1


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-------- Original message --------
From: Timothy J Pendleton 
Date: 3/24/20 8:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Matt Cooper , Ken Wright , Galoots

Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

Sometime, in the late 70s to early 80s, I bought a Craftsman miter box and saw
that looked a lot like that. Mine is gray and red with an arch on the backstop.
The part number on the miter box owners manual is 881.36305. The 4 X 22"
Kromedge back saw has a part number, in the repair parts list, as 36188 with no
prefix. Presumably, the prefix is also 881.

Hope this helps.

Tim

Hunkering down in northern NJ while contemplating the fitting of a 3M face mask
to a Medieval Plague Doctor's mask....

On March 24, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Matt Cooper  wrote:

Would this possibly be it?


https://1drv.ms/u/s!A
ve_yPrBMmsnpwCuAuOnTzCNGa-t

If so it was made by Hempe.


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-------- Original message --------
From: Matt Cooper 
Date: 3/24/20 5:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ken Wright , oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

How about a picture of the mitre box in question?
I just sold my sears craftsman with a Krome edge saw.
I purchased a new to me Stanley.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Wright 
Date: 3/24/20 4:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: oldtools@s...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

On 3/23/20 6:58 PM, Ken Wright wrote:
> I'll take a look at the miter box, but I don't remember seeing a model
> number.

Well, I took a good long look, and I couldn't see any model numbers on
the miter box.  Sorry I can't provide more info.

Ken

> On 3/23/20 3:37 PM, John Ruth wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>> Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears
>> model number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up
>> an exact replacement saw!
>>
>> The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are
>> a code for the actual manufacturer.
>>
>> Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:
>>
>> >> http://
vintagemachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx
>>
>> Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with
>> that manufacturer’s mitre boxes...
>>
>> So, let us know the Sears model number, please.
>>
>> John Ruth
>> In rainy Metuchen, NJ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ken Wright > <mailto:wizard@b...>> wrote:
>>
>>> GGG's,
>>> When my family and I moved here from Michigan some years ago, I think
>>> the saw that came with my miter box (an 80's vintage Craftsman) failed
>>> to make the move.  I went to the Borg and bought a "miter saw" but it's
>>> only 14" and just not long enough to get a decent stroke in the box.  If
>>> any Galoots have one they can part with, I'd be willing to pay a fair
>>> price for it.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
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270199 Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Found this.


http://theclampguy.info/hist_hm.ht
m


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-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Wright 
Date: 3/24/20 9:15 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Galoots 
Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw

On the Vintage Machines list of Sears contractors, 881 is the code for
Hempe.  Even though I can't find a model number on my miter box, I'm
willing to go with the provisional identification as a Hempe.

Does anyone have any info about Hempe?  I had never heard of them until
today.

Ken

On 3/24/20 8:59 PM, Timothy J Pendleton wrote:
> Sometime, in the late 70s to early 80s, I bought a Craftsman miter box and saw
that looked a lot like that. Mine is gray and red with an arch on the backstop.
The part number on the miter box owners manual is 881.36305. The 4 X 22"
Kromedge back saw has a part number, in the repair parts list, as 36188 with no
prefix. Presumably, the prefix is also 881.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Tim
>
> Hunkering down in northern NJ while contemplating the fitting of a 3M face
mask to a Medieval Plague Doctor's mask....
>
> On March 24, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Matt Cooper  wrote:
>
> Would this possibly be it?
>
>
> > https://1drv.ms/u
/s!Ave_yPrBMmsnpwCuAuOnTzCNGa-t
>
> If so it was made by Hempe.
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G.
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Matt Cooper 
> Date: 3/24/20 5:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Ken Wright , oldtools@s...
> Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw
>
> How about a picture of the mitre box in question?
> I just sold my sears craftsman with a Krome edge saw.
> I purchased a new to me Stanley.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G.
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Wright 
> Date: 3/24/20 4:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: oldtools@s...
> Subject: Re: [OldTools] WTB: 18" or longer back saw
>
> On 3/23/20 6:58 PM, Ken Wright wrote:
>> I'll take a look at the miter box, but I don't remember seeing a model
>> number.
> Well, I took a good long look, and I couldn't see any model numbers on
> the miter box.  Sorry I can't provide more info.
>
> Ken
>
>> On 3/23/20 3:37 PM, John Ruth wrote:
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Since Sears subcontracts Craftsman brand tools, publishing the Sears
>>> model number will let the Porch identify the OEM and possibly turn up
>>> an exact replacement saw!
>>>
>>> The first digits, before the dot or space, of a Sears model number are
>>> a code for the actual manufacturer.
>>>
>>> Here’s a link to a table of Sears manufacturer codes for tools:
>>>
>>> >>> http:
//vintagemachinery.org/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx
>>>
>>> Then we’ll tackle the question of who made the saws furnished with
>>> that manufacturer’s mitre boxes...
>>>
>>> So, let us know the Sears model number, please.
>>>
>>> John Ruth
>>> In rainy Metuchen, NJ
>>> Sent from my iPhone

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270200 Tim <tpendleton@g...> 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Gallows humor, Bill.  It was a morphing of old tools and new.  :)

Tim
270201 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
Matt sent this:

> On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Matt Cooper  wrote:
> 
> 881 indicates it was built by Hempe, for Sears. Here is someone's page about
theirs.
> 
> http://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2015/04/craftsman-miter-
box.html?m=1 <http://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2015/04
/craftsman-miter-box.html?m=1>

In it, the author says


One last word of wisdom, Miter saws 22 to 30 in in length are NOT to be used
free hands, they are only made to be used in a proper miter box, or they will
bend. DO NOT do that, ever!


I have used a 24” for cutting tenons because I read that it makes it easier to
hold the saw vertical for a plumb cut.  Worked niecely, pretty controllable, but
I likes my 14” better. Anybody know about this?

Ed Minch
270205 Kirk Eppler 2020‑03‑25 Re: WTB: 18" or longer back saw
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:53 AM Ed Minch  wrote:

> Matt sent this:
>
> One last word of wisdom, Miter saws 22 to 30 in in length are NOT to be
> used free hands, they are only made to be used in a proper miter box, or
> they will bend. DO NOT do that, ever!
>
>
>
When I got to play with various Wenzloff saws, I found the bigger ones to
be too big to handle comfortably.

I ended up with a 14", 3" usable.  The 16" was too top heavy with the brass
back.  I can't imagine using either of my mitre saw (28" & 26") free hand.


-- 
Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, and still really here, but working so not
getting any shop time.

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