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269724 | Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Sargent VBM no. 5 |
Finished up a Sargent VBM no. 5. Picked it up at a Garage sale quite a while ago. I already have a Stanley 5 so there has been no hurry. These have a two piece steel depth adj. Knob. This one was missing the outer part. These are hard to find and if you do, they are more than I would pay. So I cut one out of wood and epoxied it on. That is picture 3. It was missing a totem, but I had an extra. I pick them up whenever I find them. It has a bead on the bottom of the knob. No frog adjuster. It is all sharpened and ready to work. Flattening the back of the iron was a bear. It had quite a belly. It did well on some white oak. Soon enough I will take it apart and put some wax on the japanning. To save what's left. And to pretty it up a bit. https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ave_yPrBMmsnpQC6M1jW0vOtTMty Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10. |
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269725 | Chuck Taylor | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
On Monday, January 20, 2020, 6:24:18 PM PST, Matt Cooper wrote: > Finished up a Sargent VBM no. 5. Picked it up at a Garage sale quite a while ago. > I already have a Stanley 5 so there has been no hurry. Matt, Looks very nice! How does it perform compared to the Stanley 5? Chuck Taylor north of Seattle |
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269726 | Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
About the same. Setup is a little more difficult. I have not used it enough yet to know if it keeps set. Took a bit more time and effort to flatten the sole compared to the Stanley's. But not too much. The frog and the base matted well and the iron bedded well to the frog. Seems to me the frog adjustment is over rated. Some of my other planes lack them and I do not miss them much. With limited use absolutely no chatter. Over all it is comparable to my Stanley. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10. -------- Original message -------- From: Chuck Taylor |
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269727 | Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
I agree. Except I have never used or held a MF or a Bedrock. However it is clear that the 2 Sargents I have are a half step below the Baileys. I have a Sargent 422 (No. 7). I also do not use 5's that often. I lucked out in that the first plane I bought turned out to be a bailey 5 1/2. I had no idea about the differences in the Stanley planes at that point. That is usually my go to jack plane. I have two blades, one for rough work and one when I want to use it as a smoother. It is a sweetheart. It is my favorite of the bunch. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10. -------- Original message -------- From: Charles Driggs |
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269729 | Tim Pendleton <tpendleton@g...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
Nice job on the wooden adjusting knob! If wooden nickels make a comeback, this skill set could be in demand. :) Tim Wearing his woolies this morning in 19F NJ. On January 20, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Matt Cooper |
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269730 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
Reading on Japanese chisels with the hollow in the back, one source said that light hammering on the face will change the metal slightly to provide more flat when you have sharpened up to the hollow. Might this work on plane blades with a pronounced belly - hammer it out to make flattening easier? Ed Minch |
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269731 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
The advantage of the Sargents is supposed to be that the frog adjusts parallel with the sole so you don;t have to re-set the blade like you do when you change the frog on a Bedrock. Although, like has been said, I rarely adjust frogs once I get them where I like them. Ed Minch |
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269732 | Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
Thanks, Cannot find it now. However Paul Sellers talks about this on one of his sharpening videos. Do not use a metal hammer. Dont ask me how I know. I did use a softer metal and it helped some. But I was still a little gun shy. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10. -------- Original message -------- From: Ed Minch |
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269734 | Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> | 2020‑01‑21 | Re: Sargent VBM no. 5 |
Yes and no. Some of the better early Sargents used the Shaw patent http://www.sargent-planes.com/sargent-9-smooth-plane/amp/ However their lower cost planes did not use this. Mine for example has the two screws, just like a Bailey, under the Iron. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10. -------- Original message -------- From: Ed Minch |
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