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269651 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2020‑01‑06 Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
GG’s, esp. UK Galoots:

I have a mystery tool in hand.

Marked “25 / BRADES / Made in England”

Does anyone have a Brades catalog, other than the 1941 edition posted online at
toolemera.com<http://toolemera.com>? ( That
1941 edition does not list pattern 25 on the index page. )

Bugbear contributed this back in 2005:
http://swingleydev.com/ot
/get/144874/single/

The tool is about 6”long, a single steel forging.  The “business end” looks like
a Bay Leaf in profile, which is 3” long and 3/4” wide.  The 1/8” cross section
is “lenticular,” meaning it’s like the cross section of a convex lens. The edges
are DULL.

The 1/4” dia. shank of the tool ends in a 1” round flat top about 1/8” thick.
No signs of hammering on this flat top.

No idea what it’s purpose was, or even what trade it belongs to, as it’s clear
that Brades / William Huntsman & Sons made tools for a wide variety of trades,
including mason and agriculture tools.

My current best SWAG is that it’s for grafting fruit trees, but don’t ask me why
I believe this.

John Ruth

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269652 Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> 2020‑01‑06 Re: Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
John -

A 1934 Brades catalog here -

https://archive.org/details/WilliamHuntAndSonsExportCatalogue1934/page/n25<
/a>

The images aren't the clearest and I'm a bit foggy myself as to what this
tool looks like, but take a look at the page with plaster trowels and
pointers.  Are the tools in the lower left what you have?

Phil
269653 Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> 2020‑01‑06 Re: Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
A little more digging came up with this image from a 1957 Tyzack catalog
http://trowelcollector.blogspot.com/2014/12/s-tyzack-1957
-catalogue-now-available.html


with a clearer illustration of a line pin.  More info on line pins here -
https
://www.wonkeedonkeetools.co.uk/line-pins/what-is-a-line-pin

Is that the whatsit under discussion?

Phil
269654 Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> 2020‑01‑06 Re: Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
Hi John, GGs

Second attempt, posting to the list this time.

Here’s either a link to a photo of my collection of line pins, or a link to an
album. If it’s the album it’s pic 22 and 23.

You’ll see a US style pin which might be more familiar to you on the far right
side of pic 23.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/
Whb932PaeWX6RR8u9 <htt
ps://photos.app.goo.gl/Whb932PaeWX6RR8u9>

Yes, I collect line pins. I may be the worlds foremost collector. I may also be
the worlds only collector.

Mick Dowling
47 Patterson st.
Coburg Vic 3058 
Australia
269655 Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> 2020‑01‑06 Re: Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
John, GGs

More line pins.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/
74UtdazsBPY3sRZ96 <htt
ps://photos.app.goo.gl/74UtdazsBPY3sRZ96>

Mick Dowling
Melbourne Australia
269657 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2020‑01‑07 Re: Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
Mick & Phil just about had a “photo finish” on this one!
Mick’s initial inadvertently off-list response came in at 4:29, followed by two
others, then Phil’s arrived at 5:24, less than an hour later.

Thanks to you gentlemen, I now have a 100% positive identification of this tool!

Note that I was way off, hypothesizing that it was a tree-grafting tool!

Now, if I could only remember where I got it! I’ve been sorting recent
acquisitions; this was in a bag with some other stuff that I do recall
purchasing, but where this Line Pin came from is a question mark.

John Ruth





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On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Mick Dowling mailto:spacelysprocket@b...>> wrote:

Hi John, GGs

Second attempt, posting to the list this time.

Here’s either a link to a photo of my collection of line pins, or a link to an
album. If it’s the album it’s pic 22 and 23.

You’ll see a US style pin which might be more familiar to you on the far right
side of pic 23.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/
Whb932PaeWX6RR8u9

Yes, I collect line pins. I may be the worlds foremost collector. I may also be
the worlds only collector.

Mick Dowling
47 Patterson st.
Coburg Vic 3058
Australia



On 7 Jan 2020, at 7:40 am, John Ruth mailto:johnrruth@h...>> wrote:

GG’s, esp. UK Galoots:

I have a mystery tool in hand.

Marked “25 / BRADES / Made in England”

Does anyone have a Brades catalog, other than the 1941 edition posted online at
toolemera.com<http://toolemera.com><http://toolemera.com>? ( That 1941 edition does
not list pattern 25 on the index page. )

Bugbear contributed this back in 2005:
http://swingleydev.com/ot
/get/144874/single/

The tool is about 6”long, a single steel forging.  The “business end” looks like
a Bay Leaf in profile, which is 3” long and 3/4” wide.  The 1/8” cross section
is “lenticular,” meaning it’s like the cross section of a convex lens. The edges
are DULL.

The 1/4” dia. shank of the tool ends in a 1” round flat top about 1/8” thick.
No signs of hammering on this flat top.

No idea what it’s purpose was, or even what trade it belongs to, as it’s clear
that Brades / William Huntsman & Sons made tools for a wide variety of trades,
including mason and agriculture tools.

My current best SWAG is that it’s for grafting fruit trees, but don’t ask me why
I believe this.

John Ruth

Sent from my iPhone
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269658 "Andrew B." <andrew.bouland@g...> 2020‑01‑08 Re: Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
snip> John has a Brades Mystery tool (line pin)

            
269659 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2020‑01‑08 Re: Whatsit: Brades #25 Made in England
Andrew,

It’s a good example of The Porch in action!  Identifications of “whatsits” are
among my favorite topics here.

Since I’d not encountered these before in over 40 years of “tooling around,” I
surmise that this tool must have gone out of style, replaced perhaps by
something less intrusive to the mortar.

John Ruth
Spending some time organizing the shop area today.

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