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269521 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2019‑12‑17 | Anvil |
GGGG This is on a local internet marketplace with no description, just $200. Does anybody recognize it before I ask for any markings?? https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/49230979666/in/dateposted-public/ Thanks in advance Ed Minch |
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269522 | Matthew Groves <grovesthegrey@g...> | 2019‑12‑17 | Re: Anvil |
It looks very very Vulcan to me, shape wise. Good mid-tier anvil. Matthew Groves Springfield, MO |
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269523 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2019‑12‑17 | Re: Anvil |
Looks usable if not the prettiest of anvils. If it’s 50 pounds it’s expensive, over 100 pounds it’s a deal. Nice looking edges Michael On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:50 PM Ed Minch |
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269524 | gary may | 2019‑12‑17 | Re: Anvil |
Hi Ed, Looks like a Vulcan to me, which is a fine, quiet anvil. Not going that cheap around here, but anvils are less common on the West Coast. gluck widdat. gam How horrible it is to have so many people killed!---And what a blessing one cares for none of them! Jane Austen On Monday, December 16, 2019, 05:51:00 PM PST, Ed Minch |
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269526 | Dragon List <dragon01list@g...> | 2019‑12‑17 | Re: Anvil |
definitely looks spock-ish. maybe 100 lbs? if it's got any real bounce it's not a bad deal...the kind of thing i'd want to buy for a demo anvil (light enough to move relatively easily). bill felton, ca On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 6:19 AM gary may via OldTools < oldtools@s...> wrote: |
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269527 | Roy Parker <rp77469@c...> | 2019‑12‑17 | Re: Anvil |
Here's a pretty good identification file: https://www.facebook.com/notes/blacksmithing-for-beginners/anvil- identification-quick-and-dirty/1524525807640820/">https://www.facebook.com/notes /blacksmithing-for-beginners/anvil-identification-quick-and- dirty/1524525807640820/ |
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269531 | "Adam R. Maxwell via OldTools" <oldtools@s...> | 2019‑12‑18 | Re: Anvil |
> On Dec 17, 2019, at 06:14 , gary may via OldTools |
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269532 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2019‑12‑18 | Re: Anvil |
I picked up this anvil about 6 weeks ago, 15 miles away. 161 pound Peter Wright, which goes nicely with the 104 pound PW, found on ‘05. https://flic.kr/p/2hJtcBG The lovely wife believed me when I said it was a good price, especially on the West coast. I don’t think anvils are all that scarce, just cheap ones. Sunday afternoon, about to take the dogs to the park and the phone is close to dead. So I plop down on couch next to said LW, plug in for a few minutes so as to listen to a podcast (Mortise & Tenon#15) at the dog park. On another forum a guy posts a CL link he’s too far to get to, decent anvil, great price . I text to the seller, jump in the car with the dogs watching me pull away (what about us?). The post had been up less than an hour when the seller helped me lift it into the back of the Volvo. If I hadn’t paused to charge the phone it would have been gone! Just like that! That Volvo (‘87, counts as an old tool!) had been giving the GIT trouble all week, stalling and hesitating. ‘ You took that car 30 miles on the freeway no problem?’ The Volvo emblem is an ancient symbol for iron! Dumped from the tailgate into the wheel barrow, then onto the grass where I could get a hand truck under it and then onto the patio, I mean smithy. She’s a beauty! Slightly better edges than the 104. Nice rebound, fits all my 7/8 hardy tools! And at $2.17 per pound, a deal if not a steal! Michael-frightening the neighbors pretty much every weekend lately On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:37 PM Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > > > On Dec 17, 2019, at 06:14 , gary may via OldTools < > oldtools@s...> wrote: > > > > but anvils are less common on the West Coast. gluck widdat. gam > > I watch anvil prices on craigslist for laughs at this point > > 150 lb. $800 > 83 lb. $450 > 70 lb. $400 > > https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/d/graham-anvils/7039834972.html > > A friend gave me a couple pieces of forklift tine that I'm currently > using as an anvil; lots of mass, and fine for my purposes (which is > basically bashing an occasional rivet lately). > > Adam > still making shavings in Benton City > -- Michael |
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269533 | Timothy J Pendleton <tpendleton@g...> | 2019‑12‑18 | Re: Anvil |
Nice score on the anvil! The edges are in great shape. I told Wifey that my second anvil was to keep the first one company - it would be quieter that way. :) Tim The tree branches here are all coated in crystal-like ice this morning. It is really quite beautiful, but wreaking havoc with the weaker ones. On December 18, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Michael Suwczinsky |
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269537 | Mike Rock <mikerock@m...> | 2019‑12‑18 | Re: Anvil |
So, what does that make my almost new condition #475 Peter Wright worth? Not for sale! God bless |
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269538 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2019‑12‑18 | Re: Anvil |
More than the old Volvo I think! On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 11:52 AM Mike Rock |
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269547 | gary may | 2019‑12‑19 | Re: Anvil |
Hi Adam! That's funny, real old-school ROTF! I've seen so many BIG anvils lying around Connecticut, and Pennsylvania (and one in NOLA) that I could easily afford and would love to have at home. But the shipping was always impossible. Maybe that's why there aren't so many around here? best to you and to all galoots everywhere, at this time on earth---sincerely; gam in OlyWA/USA How horrible it is to have so many people killed!---And what a blessing one cares for none of them! Jane Austen I watch anvil prices on craigslist for laughs at this point, as prices in WA seem to have gone way up in the last year. I dunno, maybe a Trenton is a great anvil, but this seems a tad high: 150 lb. $800 83 lb. $450 70 lb. $400 https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/d/graham-anvils/7039834972.html A friend gave me a couple pieces of forklift tine that I'm currently using as an anvil; lots of mass, and fine for my purposes (which is basically bashing an occasional rivet lately). Adam still making shavings in Benton City, WA |
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269548 | Phil Koontz <phil.koontz@g...> | 2019‑12‑19 | Re: Anvil |
Hi all-- Just out of curiosity, I checked the price of new anvils. https://www.centaurforge.com/Scott-Anvils/products/581/ Centaur is the go-to shop for farrier's and blacksmith tools, and I was an occasional customer there for years. Anyway, it looks like a new, high quality anvil costs about seven or eight dollars a pound these days. When I started looking for an anvil, I hoped to pay about a dollar a pound, and settled for about $2.50. I guess the same economics are still valid. My anvil is a Peter Wright, about 100 pounds, and presumably imported from England about 1900. It's pretty and a nice classic, but Peter Wrights are notorious for being loud. That's probably where a lot of my hearing went-- PK Up well before the crack of dawn today, in Galena, Alaska On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:21 AM gary may via OldTools < oldtools@s...> wrote: |
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269550 | "Stager, Scott P." <StagerS@m...> | 2019‑12‑20 | Re: Anvil |
Let’s see, about this time of the year in Galena I’m thinking the crack of dawn is what - 10-11 a.m. :0) —Scott On Dec 19, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Phil Koontz |
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269556 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2019‑12‑20 | Re: Anvil |
I paid about $3 a pound for the 100 pound Peter Wright, and yeah, they’re loud! The 160 is a bit lower in its ring , if not necessarily any quieter. it can be a little odd to walk up to a Fisher or Vulcan and hear that dull thud, but you get over it. $4 a pound is generally considered a fair price for both buyer and seller, at least between blacksmiths, for a used anvil in good to very good condition. Oddly there seems to be a premium for both very big (over 300 lbs) and very small (under 100 lbs) anvils. And the French "Pig" anvils, Firminy is one maker, often top that $7-8/pound range. Something to dream about. Michael |
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269935 | "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: Anvil |
SNIP I paid about $3 a pound for the 100 pound Peter Wright, and yeah, they’re loud! The 160 is a bit lower in its ring , if not necessarily any quieter. it can be a little odd to walk up to a Fisher or Vulcan and hear that dull thud, but you get over it. $4 a pound is generally considered a fair price for both buyer and seller, at least between blacksmiths, for a used anvil in good to very good condition. Oddly there seems to be a premium for both very big (over 300 lbs) and very small (under 100 lbs) anvils. And the French "Pig" anvils, Firminy is one maker, often top that $7-8/pound range. Something to dream about. END SNIP Although I am not currently set up to use it, I have a fairly large (possibly 260 = 280 lbs - don't recall) heat -treated cast steel Milwaukee anvil. It has a nice rebound to it. I am not interested I selling, but wonder if anybody knows about them; opinion of quality, and of value? j |
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269936 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: Anvil |
Oh stab 100 red hot pokers in my eye why don't you? Everybody has anvils. Most, more than one if you pin them down. 1,000,000 sales, all my life. Never willing miss a good sale. I have seen many an anvil being carried or carted away, just as I got there. Relatives called before the sale opened and such. A friend was moving to Alska one time, and tried to take his anvil (bout a 150 wright) with him, but it overloaded his rig. So he got frustrated and basically dumped in into his next door neighbors yard. Sold it to him for 5 bucks in a rage. Of course said anvil was immediately 24 carat gold plated, and listed at a Tiffany price. One time I was bottle hunting on the "wrong side of the river". It was miles from nowhere I had crossed the river downstream from town and was working my way back across the bluffs overlooking the river (no roads, bridges or trails left here anymore. Wild country now, nobody goes there.) I came across a small mining site from about 1900. Completely forgotten. I guess it wasn't tiny. A cabin, shop and barn were in tattered ruins, but enough to make out the fundation outlines. The shop had been used for smith work. Its anvil was gone off the stump still sitting there. But there were piles of tongs. Tongs of all shapes and sizes. I gathered up exactly as much as I could still walk away with, backpack groaning. The trip back was arduous and a little scary actually. Cutting cross country in wickedly rugged mountain terrain? Well, you are going to get assaulted in many ways. Must have taken me 4 hours to get back to town. About 3 miles on the right side of the river. Over ridges and wicked gulleys and cliffs and briars and no part of the easy way to travel. Still have most of the tongs. Gave a few away. I've got about a 125 pound swage block sitting here. Its decent. Not chipped up much at all. I have a great hood for a forge. One of those 1970's open fireplace hoods. Big and heavy Along with, is a --big-- Champion hand crank blower that still works a treat. There are some swages and hardies and miscellaneous forge things. oh and..................... Hammers of any possible requirement will be available, naturally. / Gathered and waited most of my life, waiting on an anvil. I am 68 All I can see now, is the last feint glint of sail going over the horizon Kind of like that girl I know yours Scott / -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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269937 | "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: [SPAM?] Anvil |
We just don’t tell as many heartrending stories on the porch as we used to. (wiping tears from my eyes…) Scott, there’s an anvil in my workshop that’s yours for the collecting. I’ll go out and chalk your name on it. Just back your truck to the door. I can (could) just about.. lift it.. so mabe 125 150 pounds - over a hundredweight for sure. A little beauty. I’ll throw in the sycamore stump too - just between friends, right. Richard awaiting storm Dennis in Northumberland |
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269938 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: [SPAM?] Anvil |
GGGG I found a 40 lb (18 kg) Brooks, England anvil for $10, stump included. It looks juct like a big one with a flat plate and a horn, and is the same color blue as the Record stuff. It has a pronounced ring when it is hit. Perfect size for a small shop not doing smithing. Is this a common maker in a common size? Ed Minch |
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269939 | Bill Ghio | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: [SPAM?] Anvil |
> On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Ed Minch |
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269940 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: [SPAM?] Anvil |
I'd read something on one of the forums that the English anvil manufacturers had pretty much divided up the world and Peter Wright got the United States, while Brooks, among other makers, were distributed on the Continent. Apparently a Brooks Anvil in the US is a rarity. There DO seem to be a lot of PW's on this side of the pond. Scott, you're breaking my heart here! There's also some sympathy back pain from your backcountry tong haul! The perfect is the enemy of the good enough. My first anvil was a 75 pound section of I beam, with a jackhammer bit clamped to it for a horn, a drilled pritchel hole for punching and an angle ground notch for bending. Various off cuts of steel, (3 x 3 by 12, 2 feet of 4 inch round etc) and currently, something called a 'stand", 3 feet of 4 inch square with 4 big holes drilled in it, are back up anvils that eventually get passed onto anvil less smiths. Any chunk of steel will do. Come to Ferndale the last weekend of April. the CBA spring conference will have a wealth of anvils, small to large. Bring some of those tongs to sell and you might even break even! I'll bring the stand and start looking for my next offcut to be passed along. Still have the I beam, it's loud, a good primer for hitting noisy Peter Wrights under a sheet metal roof. Michael On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 4:45 AM Ed Minch |
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269941 | "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: Anvil |
Still wondering if anybody knows about Milwaukee anvils? J Joseph Sullivan |
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269942 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2020‑02‑14 | Re: Anvil |
trying to do the 'least-I-can-do" Google search on Milwaukee anvil history is not a satisfying past time. Milwaukee Tool is, apparently a modern company with a host of tool like products, and the cross referenced mentions of the 'sconsin city, the History Channel TV show etc make that search less than fruitful I checked a few of the forums I frequent and there 's a decade old reference to Milwaukee Tool distributing English Brooks anvils, but that thread devolves into bashing modern anvils and warnings about letting machinist mill anvil faces. A good reference might be Richard Postman's book, Anvils in America. An expansive, expensive book that details pretty much everything known about the American Anvil market, but there are still a lot of gray areas. I got a copy of the book thru Inter Library Loan, and its available for sale from Anvilfire.com. I would suggest you go to the Anvilfire website, look for the forum the Guru's Den and look for Jock Dempsey's 'guru' signature line on one of the posts. Clicking that link and forwarding pictures of your anvil (like the OldTools list, the forum doesn't support pics, but Jock's email does) will get you the fastest response I can think off. Michael-Who only photocopies the Peter Wright sections of AIA On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:41 AM Joseph Sullivan |
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269943 | don schwartz <dks@t...> | 2020‑02‑15 | Re: Anvil |
On 2020-02-14 4:00 p.m., Michael Suwczinsky wrote: > trying to do the 'least-I-can-do" Google search on Milwaukee anvil history > is not a satisfying past time. It may help to take this approach to searching vintage Milwaukee anvil -"Milwaukee Tool" -assembly -FUEL -parts The hyphen or minus sign is meant to exclude pages including the term which follows it. Don -- “If the service is free, you are the product.” “We have it in our power to begin the world over again.” —Thomas Paine |
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