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269452 Darrell & Kathy <larchmont@s...> 2019‑11‑26 Another vise rehab
Galoots

I was at the Tool Group of Canada meeting on Saturday.
There are always some dealers in the hall, usually they have
some cool stuff that I want but don't need.  Saturday was no
exception to this rule.

I picked up a couple of Scoo-Zon file handles for way less than
retail.  One of them looks like it was never used, the wood is
still clean.  I also acquired a 1/2 inch incannel Marples gouge.
This will be used in a shrink-box class.  I won't worry about
people hitting this chisel with a mallet, not like I would worry
about my I&H Sorby paring gouges.

The most interesting, and surprisingly topical due to Kirk's post
about his vise rehab, was a vise.  I got vises, so many vises,
that I really do not need anymore.  But this one called to me.
Check it out...

It's a portable vise, oriented differently from the run-of-the-mill
clamp-on style of vise (which I got too many of already).
First thing I did was cut some jaw liners and screw them on.

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/b/b9/Vise1.jpg

This thing is a quick-release style vise!  The little (brazed repair)
lever here disengages a pawl from the toothed bar and allows
you to slide the vise open.  The pawl also allows the vise to be
slipped closed.

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/4/4a/Vise2.jpg


The only identifying mark is this "No. 800" on the handle.
The handle has left-hand threads that engage the vise body
and right hand threads that engage the end of the ratchet
bar.  This allows a few turns of the handle in either direction
to loosen or tighten the vise once you slip the sliding jaw
up against the work.

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/7/77/Vise3.jpg

I think I am gonna like this wee vise for spoon carving.
Does anyone know who made it?  I spent some time
digging around DATAMP but did not find it.

-- 
Darrell LaRue
Oakville ON
Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User
269453 Matt Cooper <MaNoCooper@l...> 2019‑11‑26 Re: Another vise rehab
Sorry, I cannot be of help finding its maker. However, I have a Stanley 700, of
1960 vintage, that I really like. In my small shop, I clamp it on the work bench
and use it as a draw horse. I use it to update axe handles to meet my specs,
with a draw knife and spike shaves. New axe handles are much too thick for my
liking. Also great for holding long pieces upright.
I don't work much with pieces as large as doors, however I bet they are handy at
holding those as well.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10.



-------- Original message --------
From: Darrell & Kathy 
Date: 11/25/19 21:28 (GMT-05:00)
To: Galoots 
Subject: [OldTools] Another vise rehab

Galoots

I was at the Tool Group of Canada meeting on Saturday.
There are always some dealers in the hall, usually they have
some cool stuff that I want but don't need.  Saturday was no
exception to this rule.

I picked up a couple of Scoo-Zon file handles for way less than
retail.  One of them looks like it was never used, the wood is
still clean.  I also acquired a 1/2 inch incannel Marples gouge.
This will be used in a shrink-box class.  I won't worry about
people hitting this chisel with a mallet, not like I would worry
about my I&H Sorby paring gouges.

The most interesting, and surprisingly topical due to Kirk's post
about his vise rehab, was a vise.  I got vises, so many vises,
that I really do not need anymore.  But this one called to me.
Check it out...

It's a portable vise, oriented differently from the run-of-the-mill
clamp-on style of vise (which I got too many of already).
First thing I did was cut some jaw liners and screw them on.

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/b/b9/Vise1.jpg

This thing is a quick-release style vise!  The little (brazed repair)
lever here disengages a pawl from the toothed bar and allows
you to slide the vise open.  The pawl also allows the vise to be
slipped closed.

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/4/4a/Vise2.jpg


The only identifying mark is this "No. 800" on the handle.
The handle has left-hand threads that engage the vise body
and right hand threads that engage the end of the ratchet
bar.  This allows a few turns of the handle in either direction
to loosen or tighten the vise once you slip the sliding jaw
up against the work.

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/7/77/Vise3.jpg

I think I am gonna like this wee vise for spoon carving.
Does anyone know who made it?  I spent some time
digging around DATAMP but did not find it.

--
Darrell LaRue
Oakville ON
Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User

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269455 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑11‑26 Re: Another vise rehab
> On Nov 25, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Darrell & Kathy  wrote:
> 
>  But this one called to me.
> Check it out…

Darrell

Hard to get the scale of the vise - what are some dimensions?  Looks
interesting.

Ed Minch
269457 "Ed O'" <edo@e...> 2019‑11‑26 Re: Another vise rehab
That's a Goodell Pratt No. 800 Carpenters' Vise.  In the reprint of the Millers
Falls/Goodell Pratt catalog No. 42 from 1938 it is on page 44.

Here's one on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Goodell-Pratt-Quick-Adjust-Portable-
Bench-Vise-Original-Decal-95-Japan/123950360120?hash=item1cdc046638:g:gzkAAOSwWv
tdsQXK">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Goodell-Pratt-Quick-Adjust-Portable-Bench-
Vise-Original-
Decal-95-Japan/123950360120?hash=item1cdc046638:g:gzkAAOSwWvtdsQXK

That is a very nice vise, but everything GP made was in my opinion.  1938 price
was $3.40.

Ed O'

-----Original Message-----

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/4/4a/Vise2.jpg


The only identifying mark is this "No. 800" on the handle.
The handle has left-hand threads that engage the vise body and right hand
threads that engage the end of the ratchet bar.  This allows a few turns of the
handle in either direction to loosen or tighten the vise once you slip the
sliding jaw up against the work.

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/7/77/Vise3.jpg

I think I am gonna like this wee vise for spoon carving.
Does anyone know who made it?  I spent some time digging around DATAMP but did
not find it.

--
Darrell LaRue
269459 Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> 2019‑11‑26 Re: Another vise rehab
The most interesting, and surprisingly topical due to Kirk's post
about his vise rehab, was a vise.  I got vises, so many vises,
that I really do not need anymore.  But this one called to me.
Check it out...

http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/b/b9/Vise1.jpg

Yeah, that one would have been begging me to take it home as well.

Nice Get!

Michael-Also with WAY too many vises in the shop


On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:28 PM Darrell & Kathy 
wrote:

> Galoots
>
> I was at the Tool Group of Canada meeting on Saturday.
> There are always some dealers in the hall, usually they have
> some cool stuff that I want but don't need.  Saturday was no
> exception to this rule.
>
> I picked up a couple of Scoo-Zon file handles for way less than
> retail.  One of them looks like it was never used, the wood is
> still clean.  I also acquired a 1/2 inch incannel Marples gouge.
> This will be used in a shrink-box class.  I won't worry about
> people hitting this chisel with a mallet, not like I would worry
> about my I&H Sorby paring gouges.
>
> The most interesting, and surprisingly topical due to Kirk's post
> about his vise rehab, was a vise.  I got vises, so many vises,
> that I really do not need anymore.  But this one called to me.
> Check it out...
>
> It's a portable vise, oriented differently from the run-of-the-mill
> clamp-on style of vise (which I got too many of already).
> First thing I did was cut some jaw liners and screw them on.
>
> http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/b/b9/Vise1.jpg
>
> This thing is a quick-release style vise!  The little (brazed repair)
> lever here disengages a pawl from the toothed bar and allows
> you to slide the vise open.  The pawl also allows the vise to be
> slipped closed.
>
> http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/4/4a/Vise2.jpg
>
>
> The only identifying mark is this "No. 800" on the handle.
> The handle has left-hand threads that engage the vise body
> and right hand threads that engage the end of the ratchet
> bar.  This allows a few turns of the handle in either direction
> to loosen or tighten the vise once you slip the sliding jaw
> up against the work.
>
> http://galootopedia.com/old-tools_wiki/images/7/77/Vise3.jpg
>
> I think I am gonna like this wee vise for spoon carving.
> Does anyone know who made it?  I spent some time
> digging around DATAMP but did not find it.
>
> --
> Darrell LaRue
> Oakville ON
> Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User
>
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-- 
Michael
269464 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑11‑26 Re: Another vise rehab
How much does it weigh?  If he gets $344.50 for it, how much per pound would
that be.  And how did he come up with $344.50?

> On Nov 26, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Ed O'  wrote:
> 
> That's a Goodell Pratt No. 800 Carpenters' Vise.  In the reprint of the
Millers Falls/Goodell Pratt catalog No. 42 from 1938 it is on page 44.
> 
> Here's one on eBay:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Goodell-Pratt-Quick-Adjust-Portable-
Bench-Vise-Original-Decal-95-Japan/123950360120?hash=item1cdc046638:g:gzkAAOSwWv
tdsQXK">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Goodell-Pratt-Quick-Adjust-Portable-Bench-
Vise-Original-
Decal-95-Japan/123950360120?hash=item1cdc046638:g:gzkAAOSwWvtdsQXK <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Goodell-Pratt-Quick-Adjust-Portable-Bench-
Vise-Original-Decal-95-Japan/123950360120?hash=item1cdc046638:g:gzkAAOSwWvtdsQXK
">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Goodell-Pratt-Quick-Adjust-Portable-Bench-Vise-
Original-Decal-95-Japan/123950360120?hash=item1cdc046638:g:gzkAAOSwWvtdsQXK>
> 
> That is a very nice vise, but everything GP made was in my opinion.  1938
price was $3.40.
> 
> Ed O'
> 

Ed Minch
269465 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2019‑11‑26 Re: Another vise rehab
Ed, and Assembled Galooterati:

If I may indulge in a bit of whimsy regarding how the eBay seller arrived at the
$344.50 Buy it Now price for the Goodell-Pratt No. 800 vise:

$100 -  Original two-color japanning 
$200 - Collector Lust for the intact decal
$20 - Gizmocity Factor of the quick-adjust mechanism.
$14.50 - Actual utilitarian value of the vise
+
————
$344.50

Have I got it about right?

Whimsically Yours,
John Ruth
Metuchen NJ
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269466 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2019‑11‑27 Re: Another vise rehab
GG’s:

This vise is yet another thing that I wouldn’t have known I wanted were it not
for The Porch!

I shall henceforth be watching for one at all the local venues, Fleas, Yard
Sales, Estate Sales, etc.

As I’m sure many of you will.

Have a great Thanksgiving; remember that one doesn’t have to have a legal
holiday / day off from work to be thankful.
John Ruth
269472 Darrell & Kathy <larchmont@s...> 2019‑11‑27 Re: Another vise rehab
On 11/26/2019 6:31 AM, Ed Minch wrote:
>  > >> On Nov 25, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Darrell & Kathy >> mailto:larchmont@s...>> wrote: >> >> But this one called to me. Check 
it out… > > Darrell > > Hard to get the scale of the vise - what are some 
dimensions? Looks > interesting. >
Hi Ed,

The top of the jaws are 5 1/2 inches wide.
The outside vertical jaw is 4 inches.
It opens about 3 1/2 inches less the thickness of the jaws.
So it's quite small, but I think it will be nice for spoon carving.

-- 
Darrell LaRue
Oakville ON
Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User
269473 Darrell & Kathy <larchmont@s...> 2019‑11‑27 Re: Another vise rehab
On 11/26/2019 10:33 AM, Ed O' wrote:
> That's a Goodell Pratt No. 800 Carpenters' Vise.  In the reprint of  > the
Millers Falls/Goodell Pratt catalog No. 42 from 1938 it is on > page 44. >
Thanks Ed!
Now that I know what to look for I found it...

https://archive.org/details/MillersFallsCatalog421938/page/n45

Mine has like 2% japanning left, a brazed release lever,
some mild rust, a few dings, and no labels at all.
But.. it's a good user, and that's fine with me.

-- 
Darrell LaRue
Oakville ON
Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User
269474 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑11‑27 Re: Another vise rehab
handy size to have a quick release

Ed Minch

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