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267209 | Bill Ghio | 2018‑11‑25 | Tool box pics |
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267210 | Bill Ghio | 2018‑11‑25 | Re: Tool box pics |
One of our local charities puts on an antique show as a fund-raiser every year for the three days following Thanksgiving. This year there was a neat little tool box on offer. The box was about 8 inches wide and tall x 24 inches long. Altho designed to hold relatively few tools, almost every tool had a place fitted for it. There were five trays w/ fitted spaces for as many tools and three trays that were more generic spaces to hold assorted small tools. I would say the box was fitted out for a specific trade. I had a great time explaining to the dealer what each space, at least those I could identify, was for. She allowed me to take pics of the box, and I am sharing them here for your amusement. What tools do you see in these outlines? |
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267211 | Bill Ghio | 2018‑11‑25 | Re: Tool box pics |
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Bill Ghio via OldTools |
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267222 | John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> | 2018‑11‑26 | Re: Tool box pics |
Bill: Millwright’s Layout/Alignment Tools? Another guess would be Boilermaker’s Layout Tools; they use beam compasses. Starrett makes a 59F trammel set with interchangeable points, including “scimitar shaped” points, which on first glance I think might fit right into your case. If you didn’t buy that unique toolbox, don’t be surprised if you end up with a bad case of “non-buyer’s remorse!” You’ll never see another one like it. One of America’s greatest tool collectors, who shall remain nameless, once told me that “We will regret the things we didn’t buy far more than the things we did buy. If you buy a regrettable item, you can probably recover at least part of the money spent by reselling it. On the other hand, if you fail to buy something that’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, you’ll kick yourself forever.” DAMHIKT is true! Turned down two in one very regrettable day! (It’s in the archives, for those who might be interested. Search for keywords Stormville, Norris, and Footprint) Bill, my advice it to go for it! John Ruth Age 63 Sent from my iPhone |
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267224 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2018‑11‑26 | Re: Tool box pics |
https://swingleydev.com/ot/get/109148/single/ Wise words from your father John. I have a couple like that, and now in my time of de-acqisition I get a chance to handle and appreciate these items one more time. Ed Minch |
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267234 | Paul Gardner <yoyopg@g...> | 2018‑11‑26 | Re: Tool box pics |
> Millwright’s Layout/Alignment Tools? Another guess would be Boilermaker’s Layout Tools; they use beam compasses. Sadly, the Old Mill Rat is no longer among us to weigh in on this theory. Neat box. Thanks for sharing! Paul G, enjoying the fresh air again in SF. |
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267249 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2018‑11‑27 | Re: Tool box pics |
With a giant lump in my heart.......... Dammit Thompson Yes this box was for millwright / boilermaker tools also I have one of the long curved tools there is a cutout for, but never knew what it does. yours scott -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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267581 | roy griggs <roygriggs@c...> | 2019‑01‑10 | Re: Millrat tools |
> On January 9, 2019 at 10:43 PM Joseph Sullivan |
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267582 | "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> | 2019‑01‑10 | Re: Millrat tools |
GG, Roy Griggs said: I too have one of Jim's panther head saw handles, and assorted other tools I got from him. What bothers me most is that as I sell my tools off the provenance on these items will slide into history and be lost. END SNIP Friends, what is emerging is our awareness of the astonishing number of tools that Jim actually had and then passed on. We joke from time to time about creating magnetic anomalies, but Jim may have really done it! J |
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267583 | "Tony Zaffuto" <tzmti@c...> | 2019‑01‑10 | Re: Millrat tools |
I too have one of the "Old Millrat's" tools. We exchanged a number of items through the years and several are highly prized by me. By coincidence, back in 2006, I had a much beloved house beagle named Mac. I never spoke of the dog here or, for that matter, anywhere on the internet. Old Mac had cancer and though I would have spent any amount of money on his care, the vet said there was nothing that could be done for him. The dog died in my arms, carrying him in the house. Anyhow, to the Millrat story, though I never mentioned Mac anywhere, a day or two after Mac passed, I got a package from Jim. Opening it up was a note that he wanted to show me his re-saw capabilities. The wood was maple, book-matched and coated with shellac. The image in the center of the piece was a virtual image of my dog. This piece and the saw will remain in my shop, as prominent as those tools I inherited from my dad. On another, electron related note. Jim also accumulated old power tools with aluminum housings. I had a box with a crapload of those old electron burning demons that I had inherited, and some that just found their way to me. Those all went to Jim, and I hope the old goat is smiling down at us, knowing we remember him. T.Z. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Sullivan [mailto:joe@j...] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:02 AM To: 'roy griggs' |
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267585 | Erik Levin | 2019‑01‑10 | Re: Millrat tools |
Roy wrote:> I too have one of Jim's panther head saw handles, and assorted other tools I got > from him. What bothers me most is that as I sell my tools off the provenance on > these items will slide into history and be lost. I am not too sure that is true. If the tool is tagged or marked for provenance, much of the history will live on here, and is likely to be archived for a good long time. Attach a tag to each piece as a minimum, and the buyer may appreciate the history. Tagging or permanently marking the tools is an interesting exercise, in many cases, but can be done without devaluing the history. I have a number of tools that are marked in inconspicuous, but visible, low-or-no wear areas with owner marks or my mark as maker. Electro-etch is about as good as it gets, if done carefully, for metals, such as a saw blade. Wood is a bit tougher, but I can usually find a spot. I have several saw totes marked on the 'lower' edge, planes marked on the body under the tote, and surface gauges (machinist tool for markout and measuring) etched in handgrip indents. Keep in mind that I am the kind of person that gets a used book at a yard sale and researches the names in it, adding summary. I sent off a late-1800's machinist apprentice book (B&S) that had several prior owners names in the cover, one the original who got the book as an apprentice, and I tracked down the birth and death dates of all, where they worked for several, and any other relevant information I could find, and penciled it in next to their names. In another fifty years, that may be the last record for some of this. On a saw, I might remove the tote and mark the plate under it with provenance. It's ok if no one ever sees it again. But, for a fine piece, someone probably will, and they may add to it further. *** This message was sent from a convenience email service, and the reply address(es) may not match the originating address |
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267586 | RH <rhhutchins@h...> | 2019‑01‑10 | Re: Millrat tools |
I, too, have tools I got from Jim., a set of perfect, in NOS condition, Irwin bits for my braces. That is the only transaction that passed between Jim and me, I'm sad to say. Bob Hutchins Temple, TX, USA --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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267587 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2019‑01‑10 | Re: Millrat tools |
What a generous guy - I posted pictures of a couple of Stanley Everlast(ing) chisels in very nice shape I had run across - he wrote and asked “do you want more” and sent me 3 that he had refurbished. And there was nothing he wanted me to send him in return Ed Minch |
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267600 | David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> | 2019‑01‑11 | Re: Millrat tools |
I made it a point to buy a couple chisels from Jim before he gave up on the idea of selling them. They hold pride of place in the chisel drawer.. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 Subject: Re: [OldTools] Millrat tools I, too, have tools I got from Jim., a set of perfect, in NOS condition, Irwin bits for my braces. That is the only transaction that passed between Jim and me, I'm sad to say. Bob Hutchins Temple, TX, USA |
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267604 | Matthew Groves <grovesthegrey@g...> | 2019‑01‑11 | Re: Millrat tools |
Like many of you, my email conversations with Jim were not short, and not lacking in interesting content. He was going to send me his leather belts and his leather boots. The belts arrived….the boots didn’t make it in time. Miss that guy. Matthew Groves Springfield, MO |
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267605 | John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> | 2019‑01‑11 | Re: Millrat tools |
GG’s, Long before Jim passed, I was moaning about a problem with rusty pipe and he offered to sell me a pipe tap for about 1/3 of what a new USA-made tap would cost. I bought it, of course. As you’d expect, it was a quality tap, well cared for. I’ve used it only twice, but you know who I think of each time I see it! Jim could not only “do,” he could “teach” and “write.” Not many can do all those things; many talented craftsmen would not have the patience to teach nor the motivation and skills to write. What man he was! There are many hundreds of people, former apprentices, co- workers, Porch dwellers, etc. who are operating on knowledge and skills that Jim taught them. He has passed, but he left a legacy of empowered craftspeople. John Ruth Age 63 Sent from my iPhone |
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267607 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> | 2019‑01‑11 | Re: Millrat tools |
I have a few items that came from Jim. In particular, a small Starret double square that I use regularly. I had indicated I thought it would be a handy item to have one day and put off ther blue one day, it showed up in my mail box. A kind and knowledgeable man the old Millrat was. Doc John Holladay docholladay0820@g... 205-229-8484 |
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267610 | Tim <tpendleton@g...> | 2019‑01‑11 | Re: Millrat tools |
Me too. Jim sent me a beautifully restored Starrett No.4 square. Every time I lay hands on that square, I think of Jim. Tim Even the squirrels are wearing sweaters in NJ today. On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 12:04 PM John Holladay |
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