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266151 | Erik Levin | 2018‑07‑22 | Re: CNN for marsh-Stanley #100 stop block |
anne watson inquired: >Looking for someone with CNN to duplicate this block, about 2 ½ by 3 by 1/ Never >even saw one on the the net, but could sell about 10. Asking in OldTools cause the >miter saw is old. Anyone can make the ruler itself, but this is a little trickier. As I do not have this tool (ya, I know? Really?) and can find no good images in a search of the web (the ONLY one I could find showing the stop is a catalog cut),I can't make a firm statement, but can certainly take a look at good pics to see what it would take to make. If you can take a few with the part on good graph paper (10mm grid with 1mm fine lines is ideal) in several orientations, I can make a guess of what it might take to duplicate, but good dimensions, as John said, will be needed eventually. Caliper (vernier, dial, or one of them new fangled jobbers) and radius gauges, for a start, but good pictures will be a good start.. If you are looking to utility rather than maximal historical accuracy, it is a lot easier and less expensive. I should guess that the original part was a machined casting (cast iron)? The part looks ripe to be a steel stamping by the 1960's. *** This message was sent from a convenience email service, and the reply address(es) may not match the originating address |
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266152 | Bill Webber <ol2lrus@v...> | 2018‑07‑22 | Re: CNN for marsh-Stanley #100 stop block |
The gizmo under discussion is japanned cast iron, about 5/16 thick overall with the ruler protrusions about 5/8 on one side and 3/4 on the other. The graph paper is 1/4 inch. http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1807-001.JPG http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1807-002.JPG http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1807-003.JPG Bill W. Nottingham, PA Woodworkers visit me at http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/ |
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266153 | "Ed O'" <edo@e...> | 2018‑07‑22 | Re: CNN for marsh-Stanley #100 stop block |
More pictures of parts to a No. 100 Mitre Machine (some you may not even know you are missing). http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0414.jpg From the April 1938 Edition of the Stanley Catalogue No. 34A they are: The rule is part MM18 ($.65) The things on the left are part MM11 Low Clamp ($.45 per pair) The thing on the right is the Rule Gauge and screw part MM10 ($.45) Complete tool was listed in the Catalogue as "Stanley-Marsh Mire Machine No. 100" and sold for $33.75. Surprised it was still listed with the Marsh name as Stanley bought Marsh in 1926, and sold of existing stock with just the Marsh name. I looked at a 1942 catalog and still sold as Stanley-Marsh, my next catalog is 1946 and there it is only listed as Stanley. So sometime between 1942 and 1946 the name Marsh was dropped. Of interest to probably no one, the standard Stanley No. 34A went from being a Catalogue to a Catalog in the same time period. More pictures: Gauge on ruler http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0415.jpg Back of Gauge http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0416.jpg Showing pressure collar on Gauge http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0417.jpg Later Low Clamps http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0418.jpg Earlier Low Clamps http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0419.jpg Back of Low Clamps http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0420.jpg Parts diagram from 1938 Stanley Catalogue No. 24A http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0421.jpg Ruler markings for later Stanley No. 100 (2 holes with brass eyelets for wear, and rule starts at around 7 3/8 to account for space on tool Bed Plate. Both ends of the rule are rabbeted and have eyelets to mate with nibs on tool. The rabbets are on opposite sides of the rule and both faces are graduated exactly the same, vertical markings like on a Stanley No. 34 1/4 VR or No. 34 1/2 V ). Earlier ones have a single hole. http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0422.jpg http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0423.jpg Low Clamp installed on Stanley/Marsh No. 100 http://www.edoii.com/auction/mitreparts/img_0424.jpg Ed O' -----Original Message----- The gizmo under discussion is japanned cast iron, about 5/16 thick overall with the ruler protrusions about 5/8 on one side and 3/4 on the other. The graph paper is 1/4 inch. http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1807-001.JPG http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1807-002.JPG http://billwebber.galootcentral.com/1807-003.JPG Bill W. |
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266154 | anne watson <annewatson9775@o...> | 2018‑07‑22 | Re: CNN for marsh-Stanley #100 stop block |
Wow, you all are better searchers than me. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Ed O'<mailto:edo@e...> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 3:35 PM To: 'Bill Webber'<mailto:ol2lrus@v...>; 'Erik Levin'<mailto:enl_public@y...>; 'Porch'<mailto:oldtools@s...">mailto:oldtools@s...> Subject: Re: [OldTools] CNN for marsh-Stanley #100 stop block More pictures of parts to a No. 100 Mitre Machine (some you may not even know you are missing). |
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266155 | Tony Zaffuto <tzmti@c...> | 2018‑07‑22 | Re: CNN for marsh-Stanley #100 stop block |
Well, I have at least six CNC's in the machine shop part of my plant, and to make a part identical is very doable, but would be time consuming with programming. Easier to make a functional and not ornate part. T.Z. Anthony M. Zaffuto, President Metaltech, Inc. 3547 Watson, Hwy. DuBois, PA (814) 375-9399 |
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