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223157 | Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> | 2011‑11‑08 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
Oh, make me a set too. Mine is also without. I spent some time trying to hunt down one, to no Kirk from the droid On Nov 8, 2011 4:53 PM, "John" |
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223159 | Tom Holloway <thholloway@u...> | 2011‑11‑08 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:53 PM, John wrote: > I acquired a Marsh 100 miter machine from a neighbor. I'm tickled. > I've always wanted one of these. Judging from the PDF at Stan > Faullin's site the only pieces missing are the ruler and whatever you > call the heart shaped thing that slides along the ruler. So I > understand what these parts look like but what were the originals made > of? Does anybody have some pictures of them somewhere? I checked the > Archives and Stanley no longer seems to stock parts for its older line > of tooling anymore. If (and it's a big IF) I ever get around to > cobbling up some sort of replacement I'd like to attempt to make it > seem like it belongs to this tool. I can't seem to find this item on Stan's ToolTrip site (could you provide a link to that page?), but I can visually inspect the items in question on the shelf in my shop. The ruler seems to be of maple. The width is determined by the slot in which it is meant to fit, but it is extra thick for a yardstick-type ruler-- a solid 1/4" tick, or maybe a hair more. the markings start at just shy of 7 1/2", which is the distance from the far point of the mitered corner to the point at which the ruler is attached to the frame of the tool. The movable stop on the ruler, which has 45 deg. sloping angled surfaces against which to register an already-cut end of the piece of the frame you're working on, is made of casting. I'm assuming it is iron, but the one I got from Laurie at Stanley about 1998 (apparently from the last small stack on their shelf) is painted black, and I don't want to scratch it to see what that might tell me about the material. It came with what looks like a common hex-head 3/16" plated bolt for a set screw. Surely the Marsh original had a more elegant wingnut of some sort. Tom Holloway ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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223155 | John <leydenjl@g...> | 2011‑11‑08 | Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
GG's, Over the past weekend I acquired a Marsh 100 miter machine from a neighbor. I'm tickled. I've always wanted one of these. Judging from the PDF at Stan Faullin's site the only pieces missing are the ruler and whatever you call the heart shaped thing that slides along the ruler. So I understand what these parts look like but what were the originals made of? Does anybody have some pictures of them somewhere? I checked the Archives and Stanley no longer seems to stock parts for its older line of tooling anymore. If (and it's a big IF) I ever get around to cobbling up some sort of replacement I'd like to attempt to make it seem like it belongs to this tool. Regards, JL------------------------------- ------------------------------- ---------- |
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223161 | John <leydenjl@g...> | 2011‑11‑08 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
Hi Tom, The PDF at Stan Faullin's web site describing the Marsh 100, 400, 410 plus other cool gizmos is at: http://www.tooltrip.com/tooltrip9/ JL---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- |
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223162 | John <leydenjl@g...> | 2011‑11‑08 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
Er, pardon my mistake. Something about the (HTML) frames on Stan's site doesn't quite show up right in my URL bar. The PDF is at http://www.tooltrip.com/tooltrip9/stanley/stan-mbox/marsh- sw.pdf Stan's enclosing page for the Stanley miter boxes in general is at http://www.to oltrip.com/tooltrip9/stanley/stan-mbox/stan-mbox.htm------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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223283 | "Frank Sronce" <dilloworks@s...> | 2011‑11‑13 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
John, Did you ever get pictures of the gadget that fastens on the rule? If not, I'll take a couple of pictures and put them up on Picasa. I went rummaging through the shop yesterday and found my No. 100 miter machine hiding in a corner and two of the "gadgets" (of different vintage) in one of the machinist's chests. Both appear to be cast iron. One is black and one is blue. I used to have one of the rules (and two that I had made before I found an original), but they seem to have disappeared. Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" |
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223325 | John <leydenjl@g...> | 2011‑11‑13 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
Gracious Galoots, To recap where things stand after a mix of on- and off-list responses that have gotten somewhat intertwined, many thanks to Anne Watson, Tom Holloway and Frank Sronce for providing numerous photos, descriptions and measurements, and even an offer of a wooden model for what is properly known as a "rule gauge" according to the Stanley Marsh manual. Other parts, such as the "rule" itself, "low clamp," and miscellaneous thumb screws and thrust washers were also brought to light at various points along the way. Evidently all these components are the ones that turn up missing the most often. I greatly appreciate all your assistance. JL---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- |
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266134 | anne watson <annewatson9775@o...> | 2018‑07‑21 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
The thingy heart shaped is used as a stop in case you want to duplicate your cut. I happen to have one of those thingy and was just about getting it duplicated in case other folks wanted one, I even have the ruler. Take a careful look at the framing. Find where the end of the steel is. There should be 2 little pins, that is where the ruler fits in. If you decide to make one, make it out of something besides douglas fir or pine. The thingy is heavy enough that the ruler will sag. I solved the problem by building a adjustable brace If you intend to buy a new backsaw double check that it will fit. Mine had been sharpened so often that it would not cut to the bottom. There is a number 400 that does not have the blade area but works very well when assembling a picture frame. I am not too swift at this stuff but will try to answER DON'T GIVE IT AWAY, THOSE THINGS ARE RA RE AND EXPENSIVE Anne -----Original Message----- From: John Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:53 PM To: Old Tools Subject: [OldTools] Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 GG's, Over the past weekend I acquired a Marsh 100 miter machine from a neighbor. I'm tickled. I've always wanted one of these. Judging from the PDF at Stan Faullin's site the only pieces missing are the ruler and whatever you call the heart shaped thing that slides along the ruler. So I understand what these parts look like but what were the originals made of? Does anybody have some pictures of them somewhere? I checked the Archives and Stanley no longer seems to stock parts for its older line of tooling anymore. If (and it's a big IF) I ever get around to cobbling up some sort of replacement I'd like to attempt to make it seem like it belongs to this tool. Regards, JL------------------------------------------------------------------------ OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. To change your subscription options: http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools To read the FAQ: http://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/archive/ OldTools@r... http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools |
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266135 | Brent A Kinsey <brentpmed@c...> | 2018‑07‑21 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
I have a replica of the stops that I bought about 10 years ago. I will try to post pics and some dimensions tomorrow. I almost had an original ruler for the 100 from eBay a couple of years ago. I placed a bid and the dAy before the auction ended the seller took it down and said that she found out it was rare and reposted the piece. It went much more expensive than I could afford. Brent A Kinsey |
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266144 | Michael Blair <branson2@s...> | 2018‑07‑21 | Re: Marsh Miter Machine No. 100 |
> Find where the end of the steel is. There should be 2 little pins, that is where the ruler fits in. My Marsh has only one pin there. My Stanleys have two, and I suppose this applies to the Stanley/Marsh machines. Mike in Woodland |
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