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263957 Brent A Kinsey <brentpmed@c...> 2017‑11‑15 Need suggestions
Assembled Galooterati, 

My Son-in-law collects old USA made wrenches, ratchets and other mechanics
tools.  I am trying to find something unique, unusual or semi-rare for a
Christmas gift for him.

I have already given him a Wizard ratchet wrench a couple of Christmas' ago (it
was a huge hit). I have given him a set of Plvmb (Plomb) double open end pebble
finish wrenches.

Any suggestions from the group about something cool you have seen that might fit
the bill?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Brent K

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263962 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2017‑11‑15 Re: Need suggestions
Brent and Assembled Galooterati,

The Kraeuter Tool Co. of Newark, NJ made some very ornate wrenches, pliers, etc.

The extra work that they put into their forging dies borders on actual art!

John Ruth
Metuchen NJ

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:24 PM, Brent A Kinsey mailto:brentpmed@c...>> wrote:

Assembled Galooterati,

My Son-in-law collects old USA made wrenches, ratchets and other mechanics
tools.  I am trying to find something unique, unusual or semi-rare for a
Christmas gift for him.

I have already given him a Wizard ratchet wrench a couple of Christmas' ago (it
was a huge hit). I have given him a set of Plvmb (Plomb) double open end pebble
finish wrenches.

Any suggestions from the group about something cool you have seen that might fit
the bill?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Brent K

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263963 Mike Lynd 2017‑11‑15 Re: Need suggestions
Why not try putting "vintage adjustable wrench" into ebay?

for example:

https://www.ebay
.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-9-Billing-Spencer-USA-ADJUSTABLE-KEY-
WRENCH/202105149114?hash=item2f0e67d6ba:g:BrYAAOSwo4pYOreI

best wishes,

Mike Lynd
263964 Mike Lynd 2017‑11‑15 Re: Need suggestions
Or a collectable "vintage tool" of the future?

http://toolguyd.com/stanle
y-twintec-wrench/

best wishes,

Mike Lynd
263966 curt seeliger <seeligerc@g...> 2017‑11‑15 Re: Need suggestions
> Or a collectable "vintage tool" of the future?
> > http://toolguyd.com/st
anley-twintec-wrench/

Of the future?  I'll point to a recently funded kickstarter for a credit
card sized multitool that combined wrench, axe, protractor and a few dozen
more functions, none of which were "leaving people speechless" even though
it might excel at that above all others.
263968 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2017‑11‑16 Re: Need suggestions
Or this one:

https://www.sciplus.com/p/BATTERY-POWERED-CRESCENT-
WRENCH_57942 <https://www.sciplus.com/p/BATTERY-POWERED-CRESCENT-
WRENCH_57942>

Ed Minch
263971 "Linda & Tom Hall" <l-thall@c...> 2017‑11‑16 Re: Need suggestions
I never knew how much interest there is in wrench's, is there a site like OT?
I guess I need to look through my “draw weights”.  Is there a list of
manufactures
of interest or is it by use?
Tommy Hall
Amesbury, MA
263972 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2017‑11‑16 Re: Need suggestions
Both.  And there is a much much bigger array of patents and slight differences
than in planes.

Ed Minch
263973 Erik Levin 2017‑11‑16 Re: Need suggestions
Tom Hall asked:
> I never knew how much interest there is in wrench's, is there a site like OT?
You don't know the half of it...... Alloy artifacts, papawswrench, The Wrenching
News, etc... There are a few forums, as well as sections on more general tool
forums. I don't know of anything quite like OT, though, and I think there are a
few people on the porch that I have spied in the wrench world. (I am not a
connoisseur, but use these sites as reference)

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263977 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2017‑11‑16 Re: Need suggestions
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 4:13 AM, Linda & Tom Hall 
wrote:

> I never knew how much interest there is in wrench's, is there a site like
> OT?
>
>
> http://alloy-artifacts.org/

a mostly wrench focused site I know of




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Kirk Eppler in Rainy Half Moon Bay
263980 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2017‑11‑16 Re: Turning saw blades...
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 8:21 AM, John Ruth  wrote:

> GG's:
>
>
> Richard's post about turning saw blades prompts me to ask for a refresher
> on something I would suppose has been previously discussed on the Porch:
> How to make holes in sections of bandsaw blade.  It's not the ideal turning
> saw blade material because it may have the wrong temper, but it is readily
> available.
>


Millers Falls butcher saw punch, think its called a midget.

Or a dedicated spade bit from Blackburn Tools



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263984 Erik Levin 2017‑11‑16 Re: Turning saw blades...
Kirk said:
> Millers Falls butcher saw punch, think its called a midget.

> Or a dedicated spade bit from Blackburn Tools

I have used a Whitney punch for thinner blades on occasion. A carbide drill bit
works well, if you have a rigid drill setup.
Abrasive cut can be done (spin a dowel of soft brass tube the right size and use
abrasive slurry).
Spot heating to soften the spot where drilling will be done lets you get through
with even an eggbeater drill (you can spot heat to red with a small tip torch or
using friction-- a fast spinning rod the size of the desired hole pressed to the
blade will do it) and standard twist drill.

There are plenty of other ways

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263988 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2017‑11‑18 Re: Collectible wrenches
garagejournal.com is the giant discussion group site for wrenches
you find thousands of guys who all buy new Snap-on for astro money, 
(kind of like the guys who collect LN boxes) and brag about it, plus 
many others too

thegaragegazette.com is where the old mechanics who love old tools hang out
  Also papawswrench.com,  even more intimate

   You already bought him a Wizard ratchet, that's a pretty desirable 
item. (was it striped bluing as issued?)
    And a Plumb pepple box end set?  Geeze?  nice

   OK my personal favorite right now is J.H. Williams stuff
  Williams was in the wrench business long before Snappy. Williams were 
the boys from Brooklyn.
Snap-On invented the "spring n ball" and revolutionized ratchets and 
other drive tools.
But Williams was right there. Plus they offered style like nobody else.
   The good part for me is, they are mostly overlooked by the wrench 
collecting community, so you can still have the cream of the crop.
   From 1/4" deco to the monster 1".
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/oldtools/williamsa.jpg<
/a>

yours Scott





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263989 Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist@g...> 2017‑11‑18 Re: Collectible wrenches
I suppose I had better tell all about a book on the subject from a british view

http://www.headscope.co.uk/printed<
/a>

Also on amazon I believe

Dave Caroline
263990 Brent A Kinsey <brentpmed@c...> 2017‑11‑18 Re: Collectible wrenches
Scott, 
Yeah the Wizard ratchet wrench had the case hardened finish, I really like the
way the finish looks, on guns and old tools. That blue marbled look is just
beautiful to my eye.

He really isn't much into Snap-On. Over priced and he is budget minded. He
prefers old Plomb, Proto, Williams, Sherman Klove (S-K). Like many other types
of tools, there was a style to the older ones--a look, a shape, a feel to them
which is missing from new tools.

  I can't even begin to guess how many hundreds of sockets and many dozens of
ratchets he has, so finding something unique is getting harder every year.  I
will research more on the JH Williams.

I am afraid I am falling down the Eifel Plierench rabbit hole. Ed sent me one to
be given to my son in law, and I really like it! This one is a March 1944 issue
in great shape. I think he is gonna dig it.

I want to thank everyone who has made suggestions. I have great ideas now for
his birthday and next Christmas, and I have found a couple of things I might
begin to acquire as well.

I am also working on a child size woodworking tool kit for my Grandson. I have
an 18" panel saw that I am making a new handle for out of some curly pear which
came from a downed neighborhood tree. There will be some wooden handle and
perfect handle screw drivers in it, a small hammer I am re handling, a coping
saw and small block plane and egg beater drill.   As he gets older I will add
chisels and a no. 3 plane to the kit as well as brace and bits. I am having more
fun putting the kit together for him than he will have using it!

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263991 Claudio DeLorenzi <claudio@d...> 2017‑11‑18 Re: Collectible wrenches
And Scott, is that a white velvet display cloth under there?
I picture you wearing those white cotton conservator's gloves while
handling these beauties...
Cheers from a rainy, dreary Waterloo
Claudio

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