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262349 <ecoyle@t...> 2017‑05‑25 has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
I just volunteered myself for a presentation on antique woodworking tools, of
which I have a few-of course, but never having done this before, if anyone else
has done one before I am asking if they could share what was a popular aspect of
the presentation.

I can cobble up the basic stuff no problem, but interest is what makes it it
popular

The Audience is projected to be wanna-be “makers” of the modern Ilk

Any suggestions welcome

Ericin Calgary
262351 Jim Crammond 2017‑05‑25 Re: has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
Eric,
I have done a little of this sort of thing, though my experience leans more
towards demonstration than presentation.  I'd say if all possible make some
shavings.  Most non hand tool users seem to be fascinated that planes actually
work and can make shavings.  They don't seem to be as much interested in what
you are planing as the shavings coming out of the plane.  If you have a spill
plane, that is always good for some conversation and they can take a spill with
them.  I have also found that machine tool users are usually impressed by how
quickly you can make a bead or a molding with a plane.
Jim Crammond
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I just volunteered myself for a presentation on antique woodworking tools, of
which I have a few-of course, but never having done this before, if anyone else
has done one before I am asking if they could share what was a popular aspect of
the presentation.

I can cobble up the basic stuff no problem, but interest is what makes it it
popular

The Audience is projected to be wanna-be “makers” of the modern Ilk

Any suggestions welcome

Ericin Calgary
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262352 <gtgrouch@r...> 2017‑05‑25 Re: has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
It's always interesting to see how a round log can get split, then shaped, in
just a few minutes. I would suggest considering splitting then shaping on a
shaving horse.

But I think the big thing would be what you want to do and what your skills are
up to.

Gary Katsanis
Albion NY, USA

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I just volunteered myself for a presentation on antique woodworking tools, of
which I have a few-of course, but never having done this before, if anyone else
has done one before I am asking if they could share what was a popular aspect of
the presentation.

I can cobble up the basic stuff no problem, but interest is what makes it it
popular

The Audience is projected to be wanna-be “makers” of the modern Ilk

Any suggestions welcome

Ericin Calgary
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262358 Erik Levin 2017‑05‑26 Re: has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
I don't know if this would fit your audience, but your description of wannabe
maker gives me the idea it would....
I picked up a bunch of wine crates a while back (the price was right: 'just take
them. I need them gone') for storage. I use the less-good ones for shelf
material, and the better ones for casement. I disassemble, put dado's in for
shelves (6mm is typical, but is varies with the material at hand) spaced for
whatever I need, and reassemble with the original nails and some good glue, and
additional nails/pins as needed.
I do the dado's with a #45, stair saw, and small router plane, using a
straightedge as a guide.
I primarily use these for tool storage (regular use measuring tools in flat
cases, small planes, etc) so that I can see them without having to open drawers.
Some shelves have dividing strips, cut from the same wood, glued and tacked to
keep things organized.
My hipster neighbor and a couple nouveau-yuppie acquaintances love them, and
they fit with the recycle/upcycle maker set.

Tools: dado plane and/or stair saw, bench and/or block plane, tacking hammer,
small router plane, knife, (crosscut filed) back saw, miter box or square,
straightedge. A rebate plane could be handy for fitting shelf ends, but I fit by
light taper with the block plane. Much faster.

Typical time to do a case with 5 shelves, from original crates to drying glue is
about 30 minutes, now that I have done 5 or 6 sets. Usually no surfacing is
needed.
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262359 Anthony Seo <tonyseo@p...> 2017‑05‑26 Re: has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
On 5/24/2017 11:33 PM, ecoyle@t... wrote:
> I just volunteered myself for a presentation on antique woodworking tools, of
which I have a few-of course, but never having done this before, if anyone else
has done one before I am asking if they could share what was a popular aspect of
the presentation.

Howdy

I've done a couple or 20 of these over the years.  I tailor the 
presentation to the crowd, users, I focus more on what tools get the job 
done.  Interest groups (like historical societies) I tend to focus more 
on trades like coopering and wheelwrighting, along with the usual 
blacksmith and timber framing work.  The danger is trying to do too much 
at one time.  Most folks tend to get lost after a bit.  Also, keep the 
tools to a minimum, I rarely drag out more than 20 or at the most 30 
items.  Sad to say, but with too much stuff, things tend to disappear.

Also, make sure you have some water or other refreshment, I can't talk 
for an hour straight without having something to wet the old whistle..

Good luck

Tony (weather.....weather.....sheesh...)

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262360 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2017‑05‑26 Re: has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
On May 26, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Anthony Seo  wrote:
> Also, make sure you have some water or other refreshment, I can't talk for an
hour straight without having something to wet the old whistle..
> 
Iw as just give a bottle of Makers 46 - highly recommended

Ed Minch
262361 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2017‑05‑26 Re: has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:33 PM,  wrote:

> I just volunteered myself for a presentation on antique woodworking tools,
> of which I have a few-of course, but never having done this before, if
> anyone else has done one before I am asking if they could share what was a
> popular aspect of the presentation.
>
> The Audience is projected to be wanna-be “makers” of the modern Ilk
>
> Any suggestions welcome
>

I gotta agree with those who say let them touch tools, but chain them
down.  Or don't bring really good ones that you would hate to lose.

I personally would suggest some planing, with bench and block planes,
chisels, a spokeshave, and maybe a push drill with fluted bits, since its
less likely to split the wood, as your key players.  You have several of
each ready to go, right?  A demo on easy sharpening via a stone or two, and
Scary sharp on a piece of kitchen counter (things they can relate to, and
start easily).  Maybe a demo of dull vs sharp too.

Mortise a hinge, cut a rebate

Your audience of makers will want to do odd materials, so maybe plane or
drill a delrin cutting board, as well as wood.  Michael S was just at our
local Maker's Faire, hope he chimes in as to interest.

And we as BAGs know nothing of wooden wine boxes, but maybe demo'ing
building with those as Erik suggestions would tie it back together.  Nice
light pine, easy to drill, plane, etc.

https://kirkhmb.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Wine-Box-Projects/

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Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, CA, needing some shop clean up time this
weekend (and every weekend for the next 3 months)
262362 Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> 2017‑05‑26 Re: has anyone done a public presentation on o; d woodworking tools?
I'd bring some tongue and groove planing tools, either a swing fence 49 or
a matched wooden set. Non tool users are blown away by T&G. I'd also bring
a holdfast if you can. They seem like magic to the uninitiated.

I did spend quite a bit of last Saturday at the Maker Faire, helping with
blacksmithing, An artist, Kyle had forged a Huge set of Leonardo da Vinci
style wings for last years Burning Man (artist collective bachanal in the
Nevada desert Jeff) and had plans to forge feathers for the wings
http://www.tahoepublicart.com/uploads/1/5/8/7/15874656/davinciwings_orig.jpg
Problems arose with the forge set up in the desert and the artist came home
with 1200 or so laser cut feather blanks.  With 2 forges and 3 anvils, we
took on all comers to forge their own feathers to take home (Kyle has
become fond of the unadorned wings).

Makers as a group tend to be open to new skills, are very receptive to
instruction and techniques they don't know.  Definitely the speed with
which hand tools can handle many one off tasks would be my focus.

Michael



On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Kirk Eppler  wrote:

> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:33 PM,  wrote:
>
> > I just volunteered myself for a presentation on antique woodworking
> tools,
> > of which I have a few-of course, but never having done this before, if
> > anyone else has done one before I am asking if they could share what was
> a
> > popular aspect of the presentation.
> >
> > The Audience is projected to be wanna-be “makers” of the modern Ilk
> >
> > Any suggestions welcome
> >
>
> I gotta agree with those who say let them touch tools, but chain them
> down.  Or don't bring really good ones that you would hate to lose.
>
> I personally would suggest some planing, with bench and block planes,
> chisels, a spokeshave, and maybe a push drill with fluted bits, since its
> less likely to split the wood, as your key players.  You have several of
> each ready to go, right?  A demo on easy sharpening via a stone or two, and
> Scary sharp on a piece of kitchen counter (things they can relate to, and
> start easily).  Maybe a demo of dull vs sharp too.
>
> Mortise a hinge, cut a rebate
>
> Your audience of makers will want to do odd materials, so maybe plane or
> drill a delrin cutting board, as well as wood.  Michael S was just at our
> local Maker's Faire, hope he chimes in as to interest.
>
> And we as BAGs know nothing of wooden wine boxes, but maybe demo'ing
> building with those as Erik suggestions would tie it back together.  Nice
> light pine, easy to drill, plane, etc.
>
> https://kirkhmb.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Wine-Box-Projects/
>
> --
> Kirk Eppler in Half Moon Bay, CA, needing some shop clean up time this
> weekend (and every weekend for the next 3 months)
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