OldTools Archive

Recent Search Bios FAQ

262296 "Maddex, Peter" <peter.maddex@n...> 2017‑05‑18 Re: Garden Gate - help needed please!
The last gate I made had a diagonal to stop sag, but all the joints where pegged
with seasoned oak pegs, try getting them out once they expand!
I would wedge and/or drawbore all the frame and use PU glue just to be sure.
I can't see any pegs in the picture but they could be on the other side.
I would go thicker than 1 1/2 its not thickness for a wide gate and you can
haver thicker tenons.
Looks a nice project.


-----Original Message-----
From: OldTools [mailto:oldtools-
bounces@s...] On Behalf Of John M Johnston (jmjhnstn)
Sent: 18 May 2017 14:42
To: oldtools 
Subject: [OldTools] Garden Gate - help needed please!

Galoots Assembled,

My youngest darling daughter has commissioned (commanded) me to make a front
entrance gate for their newly fenced front yard.  To communicate her desires for
design, she indicated I should study the gates offered at https://emea01.safelinks.protection.ou
E%3D&reserved=0  I've rootled around this website--excellent sharing of
information, I might add--to gather information about types of wood to use/not
use for a gate, and types of joinery, hardware, etc.

Here is where I am right now.  The gate opening is 51 inches wide, and the gate
should be no more than 48 inches at the tallest point.    Here is the
"inspiration" for the gate my daughter (picky client) has picked:  https://emea01.safelinks
M9d4KTSNY4fFLEt0XOts%3D&reserved=0   The gate will be western cedar, as

Here are my questions:
1.  I'm planning on using 1 1/2 inch thick lumber, though I could also go as
thick as 2 or 2 1/4 inch thick stuff.  Is 1 1/2 inch stout enough if the bottom
rail is 7 inches wide, the middle and top rails 4 inches, and the sides 5 inches
wide?  Do these dimensions seem sufficient to keep the gate stiff and prevent
sagging over time?
2.  I was planning on using basic hand cut blind mortise and tenon joinery for
the gate frame.  Should I also plan to use a drawbore pin at each joint?  Is
this the best joinery option for a relative wide exterior gate?
3.  What else am I not considering that I should be?

Your help will be appreciated greatly.


John M. Johnston
"P.S. If you do not receive this, of course it must have been miscarried;
therefore I beg you to write and let me know." - Sir Boyle Roche, M.P.

OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool aficionados,
both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, value, location,
availability, collectibility, and restoration of traditional handtools,
especially woodworking tools.

To change your subscription options:

To read the FAQ:

OldTools archive: https://emea01.safelink

DISCLAIMER: This email is intended solely for the addressee. It may contain
private and confidential information. If you are not the intended addressee,
please take no action based on it nor show a copy to anyone. In this case,
please reply to this email to highlight the error. Opinions and information in
this email that do not relate to the official business of Nottingham Trent
University shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the University.
Nottingham Trent University has taken steps to ensure that this email and any
attachments are virus-free, but we do advise that the recipient should check
that the email and its attachments are actually virus free. This is in keeping
with good computing practice.

Recent Search Bios FAQ