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262186 | William Ghio <bghio@m...> | 2017‑04‑22 | Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
Or was somebody just having a bad day? https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../34197627665/in/dateposted-public/ Found these at a yard sale advertising "tools” today. They were still there when I left. Bill More on yard sale in next post... |
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262188 | bridger <bridger@b...> | 2017‑04‑22 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
I think someone was unclear on the concept of chisels.... |
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262189 | Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> | 2017‑04‑22 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
Or maybe mixed up on the type of chisels, these being wood chisels rather than cold chisels. |
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262191 | Michael Dawson <misterschmoo@g...> | 2017‑04‑22 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
These look to me like they have been used by builders as their chisel for cutting away wood and steel, nails that's in the way, they're not exactly the right shape for them, but they're not wrong either. Michael NZ |
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262190 | John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> | 2017‑04‑22 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
Bill, Stanley chisels with the transparent yellow plastic handle, like the one on the left in this photo, tend to be pretty decent users. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/77280442@N.../34197627665/in/dateposted-public/ I would have bought that one if they would part with it for a buck or two. They are just a tad softer than I like. I believe the steel is chemically correct; my understanding is that the big toolmakers don't want the temper too hard, so that Freddie Allthumbs won't lose an eye if he uses a chisel to pry open a paint can. These may not be the greatest, but you could carry them into a job site without any big worries. Keep your heirloom set at home! John Ruth |
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262192 | Brent A Kinsey <brentpmed@c...> | 2017‑04‑22 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
I have a set of the clear yellow handle Stanley's I bough 25 years ago, and while they are a tad soft, I have never found them to be brittle. I keep mine clean and sharpened up for benchwork but they are the ones I take to construction projects and let others use because it doesn't kill me to have to grind them back if necessary. They have been a decent chisel for me. Not as good as my marples blue chip, not nearly as good as my variety of older wooden handle chisels, but decent. Sent from my iPad |
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262193 | Bruce Zenge <brucensherry@g...> | 2017‑04‑22 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
In my experience, the one on the left and the one on the right are both acceptable users. I agree that somebody didn't pay attention in class when they were told what chisels are for.... These aren't Everlasts, of course, but decent users, none the less. Just my opinion. Bruce Z. Des Moines, IA |
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262194 | Charles Driggs <cdinde@v...> | 2017‑04‑23 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
Like many of us, I have multiple sets of chisels. The exact number is a closely held secret LOML does not know. Some sets for general woodworking. Some for better woodworking. Some for the really better woodworking that I pray I don’t fall asleep doing while using them — dangerous concept in itself as these are kept quite sharp. And then there is a bunch of a different style altogether that has no plastic where you grip it — those are for metalworking. I generally don’t mix these groups in use. I do have a full set of Stanley yellow & black celluloid or plastic handled chisels that I slip into a tool bag when I go elsewhere — usually being one of my kid’s homes to attempt fixing or new carpentry or trim work. They are surprisingly good chisels, but much lower in replacement value than some of the others I own. I also have two chisels from the very first matching tool sets that graced my and my brothers’ hands at single digit ages - wooden handles with clear finish and light blue paint at the whacking end of the handle. Aged and well used, and turned some years ago into something really useful for seating wedges into handles within tool heads. But these others — wow, I can’t say that I ever thought I had the time needed to return something like these brutally abused tools to serviceable condition. I used to see these things at the flea markets and just cringe. Some of them likely did have nice steel, and were pretty good tools at one time, but the abuse they suffered would be too much to learn in detail. On the now infrequent times I wander flea markets, these are what I too often see — the good ones are apparently being either hoarded or sold on *bay. Wow, Bill. Let’s hope their steel at least gets recycled. I would do the same thing you did — ye olde constabulary statement of "Move on folks, nothing to see here” comes to mind. … shudder …. Charlie On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:00 PM, William Ghio |
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262195 | Bret Rochotte <rochotte@g...> | 2017‑04‑23 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
My experience with the yellow handled 60's is that they were hard, held a good edge but were brittle. Not laminated so you get no tough steel with a brittle tool steel back, just all tool steel. |
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262196 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2017‑04‑23 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
The third from the left, the grungy blue and clear one, is a Craftsman made by Stanley. I have a set of them in my traveling bag and they are fine chisels - hold a good edge (ask Bill Ghio what they look like when you hit a bolt while digging rot out of a stinky bilge). Ed Minch |
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262197 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2017‑04‑23 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
The yellow and black chisels are traditionally good chisels. I have had a lot of good use from mine over the years. I carried this one a half million miles. http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/oldtools/stanleychisel.jpg yours Scott -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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262198 | Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> | 2017‑04‑23 | Re: Are Stanley chisels too brittle? |
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 1:00 PM, William Ghio |
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