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261950 James DUPRIE <j.duprie@c...> 2017‑03‑11 wood storage
so in an upcoming move, I may end up in a situation where I no longer have
indoor wood storage. I currently have about 400SF of floor space (10' tall)
filled with stock...

How do you folks store your stock if you don;t have indoor space? I'm in new
england, so we have freezing winters, and hot humid summers....

Thanks
-J
261976 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2017‑03‑13 Re: wood storage
> How do you folks store your stock if you don;t have indoor space?
   Build a roof James.
Get your wood up off the ground. 6" is minimum but a foot is better.  
(cinder blocks are cheap)
    Build a roof with a --wide-- overhang all around. As much as you can 
manage.
   Make sure the roof sits at least a foot higher than the stack.

Pay attention to the slope of the ground, and head off seeping rainwater.
Often a simple swale (shallow ditch) will redirect rainwater away from 
your protected stash.

  If you put the wood on the ground, moisture will creep up and get you.
  If you try using a tarp laying on the wood, water will condense on the 
bottom of the tarp and eat you up from there.
  Plus little air circulation under a tarp will hold whatever water you 
have inside the wood, and promote warpage.

  Outdoor lumber storage usually ends in disaster. Just so you know. (I 
have seen many many stacks ruined from poor planning.)
  It takes careful pains to keep that from happening.
     yours Scott

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261980 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> 2017‑03‑14 Re: wood storage
I made some simple lumber rack brackets that have held the test of time 
through tremendous loading.  Easy, strong and very cheap.
   It uses only 1 bolt through the wall stud.
Its 2 skins of 1/2 in plywood and 2 short 2X4 blocks as spacers.
  You set the rear block to fit the wall stud and the little block on 
the end just keeps everything together.

  http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/shop%20pix/lumberrack.jpg

kind of a bad "windows paint: drawing

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/shop%20pix/lumberrack2.jpg
  yours Scott

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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
261981 Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> 2017‑03‑14 Re: wood storage
Scott, I did the same plan when I had a horizontal lumber rack in the shop,
except that I skinned a whole foot long 2x4 with plywood, left he ears of
the 1/2 inch ply to wrap around the stud, and used long cabinet screws to
secure the bracket to the stud.

Eventually gave up on the horizontal rack in favor of standing the boards
on end, Krenov/Nakashima style. Found I was unloading and loading the
horizontal rack on a regular basis, not finding the wood I thought I had,
finding other wood I'd forgotten about.

Took down the 4 or 5 brackets, cut them down thinner, maybe 1 inch at the
end, 2 inches where they wrap the studs, and then made a dozen of them as
supports for a foot wide shelf that runs around the ceiling perimeter of my
shop, about a foot, on average, down from the ceiling.  Shed roof so its a
foot and a half at the tall end and about 10 inches at the low end.

Michael

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:54 AM, scott grandstaff 
wrote:

> I made some simple lumber rack brackets that have held the test of time
> through tremendous loading.  Easy, strong and very cheap.
>   It uses only 1 bolt through the wall stud.
> Its 2 skins of 1/2 in plywood and 2 short 2X4 blocks as spacers.
>  You set the rear block to fit the wall stud and the little block on the
> end just keeps everything together.
>
>  http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/shop%20
> pix/lumberrack.jpg
>
> kind of a bad "windows paint: drawing
>
> http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/shop%20p
> ix/lumberrack2.jpg
>
>  yours Scott
>
> --
> *******************************
>    Scott Grandstaff
>    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
>    scottg@s...
>    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
>    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html
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262044 "Yarrow, Gary" <Gary.Yarrow@SDSTATE.EDU> 2017‑03‑21 Re: wood storage
Scott;

I'm no expert, but I used the same system that was mentioned previously.  I
think Woodsmith had some plans about it, but very easily and cheap.  Couldn't
find the exact plan, but it's shown here:  http://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/5-easy-to-build-plywood-
projects/">http://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/5-easy-to-build-plywood-
projects/


But you know about all the sorts of lumber racks, however, my only suggestion
is, is it possible for you to add on a "lean-to" on a garage/shop area?  If you
can, at least get a roof over it (and sides), and maybe even doors.  If so, I
used that before also in one place I lived.  I eventually added a fan at one end
and just left it on to get air movement.


Dr. Gary L. Yarrow, Director
Division of Technology & Security
Environmental Health & Safety
SAV 142; Box 2202
Brookings, SD 57007
Phone: 605-688-6332
 
www.sdstate.edu


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Subject: Re: [OldTools] wood storage

I made some simple lumber rack brackets that have held the test of time through
tremendous loading.  Easy, strong and very cheap.
   It uses only 1 bolt through the wall stud.
Its 2 skins of 1/2 in plywood and 2 short 2X4 blocks as spacers.
  You set the rear block to fit the wall stud and the little block on the end
just keeps everything together.

  http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/shop%20pix/lumberrack.jpg

kind of a bad "windows paint: drawing

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/shop%20pix/lumberrack2.jpg
  yours Scott

--
*******************************
    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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262051 "K. W. Landry" <kwlandry@g...> 2017‑03‑22 Re: wood storage
This is good stuff,

But, James,

It's not clear to me, in the move, will you have outdoor space to build a
roof over, or some space where you can build racks or otherwise?

KWL
262055 James DUPRIE <j.duprie@c...> 2017‑03‑22 Re: wood storage
I'll have pretty much unlimited outdoor space (about 50 acres), but next to
nothing inside..

-James

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