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259638 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2016‑07‑20 Re: Block Plane - 1864 reference
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Mark Pfeifer 
wrote:

> Or maybe someone has already confirmed the meaning of the compound word
> "schruffhobel"? All Google is telling me is "dross of metals". "Hobel" of
> course is "slicer


Hey gang, pinged one of my German cohorts, and he provided the info below.
Additionally, I have a few older 1890s German tool catalogs at home


Per Joerg:
Will try to help a bit .. as good as I can

I found the following on Vergatthobel:

https://books.google.com/books?id=4u-eSBRj6KMC&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=de
r+hirnholzhobel&source=bl&ots=rgkPH6M5UU&sig=OgilQuYtzGeYy5w_neE5bVX1mP8&hl=en&s
a=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQ5oXhyILOAhVE5GMKHeCoBQMQ6AEIITAA#v=onepage&q=der%20hirnholzhobe
l&f=false">https://books.google.com/books?id=4u-eSBRj6KMC&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=
der+hirnholzhobel&source=bl&ots=rgkPH6M5UU&sig=OgilQuYtzGeYy5w_neE5bVX1mP8&hl=en
&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQ5oXhyILOAhVE5GMKHeCoBQMQ6AEIITAA#v=onepage&q=der%20hirnholzho
bel&f=false


This states:

The end grain (=graincut) plane/slicer is called Vergatthobel in old
documents. The source of the word "Vergatten" (my translation: to "marry
something" / to "wed sth."  in "old german") means to joint/ merge /connect
something ... so it obviously was needed to plane two pieces of wood so
that you can perfectly glue them together.

For the other word my explanation is that in the old typing, the P was
mistaken for an F...

The word SCHRUPPHOBEL is very common and means JACKPLANE in E

here is a table of the Old "Sytterlin "german types .. think the mixup of
F&P is a realistic scenario :-) ( I wasn't able to distinguish either :-)
...

http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Lese/Alphabet.htm


did not find a word on Schruffhobel

And that's all he wrote



-- 
Kirk Eppler in HMB, CA, sitting through a painful telecon

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