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148500 | Richard.Wilson@s... | 2005‑08‑09 | Re: holdfast size? |
Paul discovers the model for the Record 145 (holdfast, Jeff) >I recently found a screw operated (modern, technical version of a >forged holdfast :-) at a fair price. and asked >Are they usually this robust? Indeed so, in fact the Record has a corrugated shaft, and comes with a cast collar which has matching corrugations on its inner face. Rather than being screwed to the bench top, it needs to be bolted through, the bolts going via a backing ring. Once engaged, this enables a *huge* pressure to be exerted. Did i say *huge* ? I meant HUGE. I have a couple of collars in the top of my 'old' bench, and a couple of spares, one of which I always intended to go horizontally into the right hand bench leg (the face vice is on the left) In use, they are fiddly to set up, and tend to have little finesse between slack and timber crushing. But just the job for initial roughing down, or for work on green timber or similar. Richard Wilson Yorkshireman Galoot ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- For information on Christian Salvesen visit our website at www.salvesen.com. The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and / or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Christian Salvesen has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. However, we cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and would advise that you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Christian Salvesen is a trading name of the Christian Salvesen Group. Christian Salvesen PLC (Company number SC7173) is the ultimate holding company within the Christian Salvesen Group whose registered office is at 16 Charlotte Square, Edinburgh EH2 4DF. ______________________________________________________________ |
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148495 | paul womack <pwomack@p...> | 2005‑08‑09 | holdfast size? |
I recently found a screw operated (modern, technical version of a forged holdfast :-) at a fair price. I thought it was anonymous, but during rust removal, I discovered a shallow stamp that indicated William Marples (Hibernia) and the usual Shamrock. What surprises me is the scale and weight of the thing: http://www.wdynamic.com/galoots/4images/details.php?image_id=1969 It weighs 2650 gm (5lbs, 13 oz) and the shaft is 25mm (let's face it, it's an inch). Are they usually this robust? BugBear ______________________________________________________________ |
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148517 | Jerry Davis <jdavis@s...> | 2005‑08‑09 | Re: holdfast size? |
paul womack wrote: > It weighs 2650 gm (5lbs, 13 oz) and the shaft > is 25mm (let's face it, it's an inch). > Are they usually this robust? I have an old one which is about that size. I don't think it is marked but can check and report back if it is. It has a smooth shaft like the one in your picture. Jerry Griffin, GA ______________________________________________________________ |
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148533 | paul womack <pwomack@p...> | 2005‑08‑10 | Re: holdfast size? |
Jerry Davis wrote: > paul womack wrote: > > > >>It weighs 2650 gm (5lbs, 13 oz) and the shaft >>is 25mm (let's face it, it's an inch). >>Are they usually this robust? > > > I have an old one which is about that size. I don't think it is marked > but can check and report back if it is. It has a smooth shaft like the > one in your picture. Further research in the tool pile reveals the following: Record #146 screw-holdfast 1634 grams, 15/16" shaft diameter, 10" shaft length Woden X110/B75 screw holdfast 1086 grams, 3/4" shaft diameter, 9" shaft length. So the oldie's a biggy. I'll head for the catalogues if I remember. BugBear ______________________________________________________________ |
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148531 | "Peter Huisman" <p-j-h@w...> | 2005‑08‑10 | Re: Holdfast size? |
Bugbear said in part:=0D I recently found a screw operated (modern, technical=0D version of a forged holdfast :-) at a fair price.=0D =0D What surprises me is the scale and weight of the=0D thing:=0D =0D Are they usually this robust?=0D =0D Peter responds:=0D My home made ones are. Didn't want 'em to break too easily.=0D =0D http://www.wdynamic.com/galoots/4images/details.php?image_id=3D1215=0D =0D PeterH in Perth ______________________________________________________________ |
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148559 | Jerry Davis <jdavis@s...> | 2005‑08‑11 | Re: holdfast size? |
paul womack wrote: > Record #146 screw-holdfast > 1634 grams, 15/16" shaft diameter, 10" shaft length > > Woden X110/B75 screw holdfast > 1086 grams, 3/4" shaft diameter, 9" shaft length. My unmarked example has: 11" shaft length, 7/8" shaft diameter and the arm reaches 7.5" from the shaft. Here it is in beautiful primer red: http://smilax.griffin.uga.edu/~jdavis/holdfast.jpg A cleanup may reveal a maker's mark but it doesn't look promising. Jerry Griffin, GA ______________________________________________________________ |
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148561 | paul womack <pwomack@p...> | 2005‑08‑11 | Re: holdfast size? |
Jerry Davis wrote: > > My unmarked example has: 11" shaft length, 7/8" shaft diameter and the > arm reaches 7.5" from the shaft. Here it is in beautiful primer red: > > http://smilax.griffin.uga.edu/~jdavis/holdfast.jpg Some rummaging in the book pile gives 1935, Buck & Hickman pillar length x diam 10 x 3/4 12 x 7/8 14 x 1 16 x 1 1/8 18 x 1 1/4 1935, Buck & Hickman Woden (not shown in catalogue, but I recog nise the model #) Labelled as reach, opening, diameter of hole for collar X110, 5 7/8, 6 7/8, 1 1/2 X111, 7 1/16, 7 5/8, 1 3/4 X112, 8 5/8, 9, 2 From a previous post, my X110 has a 3/4 shaft. Those collars are a good deal bigger OD than ID. Sounds like my big 'un is a littl'un by old standards! Mine is the 14 x 1... BugBear ______________________________________________________________ |
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148580 | Bill Kasper <dragonlist@u...> | 2005‑08‑12 | Re: holdfast size? |
my marples 146 is 1650 grams, 7/8" shaft diameter, and 12" shaft length. for the record. bill felton, ca On Aug 11, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Jerry Davis wrote: > paul womack wrote: >> Record #146 screw-holdfast >> 1634 grams, 15/16" shaft diameter, 10" shaft length >> >> Woden X110/B75 screw holdfast >> 1086 grams, 3/4" shaft diameter, 9" shaft length. > My unmarked example has: 11" shaft length, 7/8" shaft diameter and the > arm reaches 7.5" from the shaft. Here it is in beautiful primer red: ______________________________________________________________ |
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