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| 87004 | Martin Harriman martinh@a... | Dec-02-2000 | Re: Of Rabbet & Fillister Planes |
I thought I'd consult the carpentry side of the world: George Ellis, Modern Practical Joinery. 3d ed. London: Batsford, 1908. Mr. Ellis has this to say about rebates (rabbets to the Non-Jeffs, but Mr. Ellis was Vice President of the British Institute of Certified Carpenters, among other distinctions): Rebating or Rabbiting [yes, spelled as in Watership Down]. Rebates are produced by first marking their dimensions with a marking gauge, then either fixing a temporary fence to one of the lines to act as a guide for the rebate plane, as shown below or by ploughing a groove to one of the lines, and chipping away the remaining wood with a firmer chisel, and finishing off to a regular surface with the rebate plane. Wide rebates such as the one shown in the door jamb, f. 1 below [omitted from this fine ASCII text], may take two or more grooves to break up the width of the core, and these are finished off with the badger plane or panel ditto [badger plane: wooden plane with skew iron flush with one side, "useful for finishing rebates, but too cumbersome to cut them," perhaps Jeff would know of these, but I sure didn't]. Narrow and special rebates, such as those on the backs of sashes, are worked with the Side Fillister and the Sash Fillister. So Ellis sort of corroborates Denning: Ellis is a carpenter, and he doesn't say "oh, by the way, the fillister plane is inconvenient for hardwoods." So he is perhaps one of those ignorant joiner savages of Denning's text. But on the other hand, he suggests that the fillister plane is used for "narrow and special rebates," and that jointers cut other rebates using the same tools as those sophisticated cabinetmakers. Just to confuse us further, he includes what looks awfully like a Stanley #78 as "a combined fillister and rebate plane of American make. This has an adjustable fence and two beds for the cutting iron, which may be used either on the front when rebating, or on the rear when fillistering." He also has drawings of sash and side fillister woodies where the bedding angle is definitely higher than common pitch. His other drawing seem pretty accurate (e.g., all the Stanleys look like 45 degree beds), so I'm willing to believe that the drawings represent reality. It's clear from Ellis' text elsewhere that he fully expects to be working in hardwoods much of the time (granted, most joinery is going to be done in softer hardwoods, compared to the Really Hard Hardwoods beloved of masochistic galoot cabinetmakers). He does talk about the suitability and popularity of various hardwoods, and his list of hardwoods popular for furniture and those useful for joinery are mostly identical. So maybe the distinction is simply that joiners are going to stick a bazillion feet of sash at one time, and cabinetmakers aren't (the section on rebates and the use of fillister planes thereon is right before the section on sticking, come to that). There you are. More semi-confusing testimony from the past (and from beautiful scenic turn of the century London, at that). But now when you whip out your Stanley #78 (combined rebate and fillistering plane of American make, Jeff), you can sing the happy rabbeting song when working in what Patrick's B&G refers to as the bullnose position, and the happy fillistering song when the iron is in the back seat. "A fillistering, a fillistering, a fillistering we shall go..." Go figure. Ellis also has beautiful pictures of Powered (but mostly not tailed--see Patrick's B&G on belting planes for details) Apprentices. And he's mighty afeared of those powered planers, whose blades whirl so fast as to be invisible (smart man, that). He does have one tailed apprentice, a "Portable [hahahaha... you should see this monster] Electric-Motor Surface Planer." So there you go. Actual Old Tool Tailed Apprentice. Portable: adj. Not actually bolted to the floor. Equipped with Big Steel Wheels which may Actually Revolve. You and twelve of your strongest friends could move it. You, twelve of your strongest friends, and a chain hoist could lift it. Start collecting these today, and out-weigh those post-drill collecting upstarts (your house won't just tip over, it will do two back-flips and sink permanently out of sight when you get your second "portable" electric planer). --Martin | |||
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